What do you see?

Phate · 5 Sep 2006 at 23:53

[TW]Fox said:
Didnt you spot that? See this is what we mean, you really don't seem to think things through - calm down, chill out and take stuff slowly.

But not as slowly as my car purchase. Thats too slow

Yeh clearly i did just spot that

and i do think things through, but there is nothing wrong with asking about it either

/opens eBay search

lol you have commented enough on my car, i'm not gonna bother commenting on yours or your purchase. i fear my life

Dandle · 5 Sep 2006 at 23:57

I would pick something far easier to do up rather than to restore at this point Phate. I dont think you realise the time, effort and money it would cost to do something like that project. Have a look about in the classic car mags and custom car mags at all the unfinished projects. They are unfinished because of time, effort and money it takes. All of the owners thought they wouldnt give up and they new how hard it was too. Your only young and you would need to give up most of your spare time for a few years to tackle something like that mustang, not to mention I would think £20-30k to do the job properly/nicely.

Nozzer · 5 Sep 2006 at 23:59

Dandle said:
not to mention I would think £20-30k to do the job properly/nicely.

I know bugger all about Mustangs, but I imagine you can safely double that to get a concourse car.

Zip · 6 Sep 2006 at 00:00

Phate said:
Please don't start.

I wont

Just take note of the other stuff i said, and look around at people you know in case you can get a few things done cheaper

Phate · 6 Sep 2006 at 00:01

Dandle said:
I dont think you realise the time, effort and money it would cost to do something like that project.

Yep i do dude, dads Cougar - 7 years, Cost - he won't tell me, the man hours - i couldn't hazardous a guess.

An unfinished project? most of the ones these days are unfinished projects, i would still strip it down anyway because who knows what "bodge" jobs they have done

Phate · 6 Sep 2006 at 00:03

Zip said:
I wont

Just take note of the other stuff i said, and look around at people you know in case you can get a few things done cheaper

Sorry i didnt mean to sound harsh, the amount of posts that have been said about my car in this forum worries me, gotta be going into the hundreds. and frankly i'm sick of it. tbh i'm mainly a lurker these days - until recently

The_Dark_Side · 6 Sep 2006 at 00:17

Lopéz said:
I'd start with a complete car to strip and restore. I honestly don't think you realise how tricky it is to source minor components. It's missing everything. Everything.

agreed.
you'd need a complete donor car as well or the project will cost a fortune.

as for transporting over here it'd have to go in a container of it's own rather than deckside.as you pay for the box regardless of what's in it, a good plan would be to try to have as many parts as possible put in there with the car.

IainB · 6 Sep 2006 at 00:27

I see....probably THE biggest money pit ever

That would take so much cash its unreal, just trying to get bits for mine is a total PITA but a total nut and bolt upwards is asking for trouble im afraid

Just had a look around, your better off (in a roundabout way!!) of getting something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1965...82QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6236QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem and doing a rolling resto - at least its complete, £10k USD - £5k english - £1k / 1.5k shipping + taxes and anything else they want to take + registration would still work out around the £8k mark though

penski · 6 Sep 2006 at 00:49

Financial suicide?

What's this about owing fourteen grand on an Astra? Will someone bring me up to speed?

*n

Phate · 6 Sep 2006 at 00:54

penski said:
Financial suicide?

What's this about owing fourteen grand on an Astra? Will someone bring me up to speed?

*n

OFF the forums yes

Rain Man · 6 Sep 2006 at 03:25

forget that box of rust. I think gibbo should Eleanor his saleen

Phate · 6 Sep 2006 at 09:00

to me ^ that looks tacky and horrible.

Guess i'm gonna keep my eyes peeled for awhile, i'm not looking to buy until after christmas anyway

but thinking about it, you guys were probably right - was a money pit unless you had a donor car that needed a new shell, ah well there will be more

Firestar_3x · 6 Sep 2006 at 09:12

As has already been said, whats the point of bringing a car over thats hard to even discribe as a car, you would pay for shipping a total car when its actually just a shell, i think you need to step back and actually think about what you want to do, restoring a car is a huge project, particually a classic, but the restore a mustang fastback with no knowledge is just stupid.

I would like to own and do up a classic ferrari but i know its not practical and i would get my self into so many money issues its just not worth it at the moment.

JRS · 6 Sep 2006 at 10:34

Hey Phate, did you see this?

'70 Charger project on the Bay of E

Not sure what your budget is, the reserve looks to be around £6500 (which is waaaay too much for a '70 in need of some serious attention, but Chargers are starting to get mega expensive again). Would need new metal in the trunk floor, new rear quarter panels (or at least new metal welding to the existing ones), some welding on the roof pillars, some work underneath, retrimming inside. Engine needs a going over as the headlight doors (which work off vacuum) don't work, so there must be a lot of vacuum leaks in the system. It has all the glass (bonus!), a big-block motor that is actually working as it stands (bonus!), a working gearbox (bonus!), the floor pans have already been sorted (bonus!)....It'll still cost a fortune, but it is a) waaaaay cooler than a 'stang, b) already in the UK and c) is a lot better base for a resto than a Fastback Mustang with no parts.

Gaygle · 6 Sep 2006 at 12:04

JRS said:
Hey Phate, did you see this?

'70 Charger project on the Bay of E

Not sure what your budget is, the reserve looks to be around £6500 (which is waaaay too much for a '70 in need of some serious attention, but Chargers are starting to get mega expensive again). Would need new metal in the trunk floor, new rear quarter panels (or at least new metal welding to the existing ones), some welding on the roof pillars, some work underneath, retrimming inside. Engine needs a going over as the headlight doors (which work off vacuum) don't work, so there must be a lot of vacuum leaks in the system. It has all the glass (bonus!), a big-block motor that is actually working as it stands (bonus!), a working gearbox (bonus!), the floor pans have already been sorted (bonus!)....It'll still cost a fortune, but it is a) waaaaay cooler than a 'stang, b) already in the UK and c) is a lot better base for a resto than a Fastback Mustang with no parts.

LOL, please, just don't tempt him....

First of all i'd pay off 14 G's for your car you have at the moment. Its a 06 plate isn't it? Why are you looking for a new car?? A project? From what i've heard restoration projects on cars and similar to restoration projects on houses, you go in thinkin it'll take x months and cost x amount, but its always more than that and they throw up things you haven't accounted for...

JRS · 6 Sep 2006 at 12:23

Gaygle said:
LOL, please, just don't tempt him....

Bah. Anyone that can be tempted into getting a B-body Charger should be tempted into getting one

Phate · 6 Sep 2006 at 13:13

JRS said:
Bah. Anyone that can be tempted into getting a B-body Charger should be tempted into getting one

Not a fan of the chargers tbh, the 70's style and onwards doesnt appeal to me the 60's style of muscle cars are sexeh tho :cool:

Alu_ATC · 6 Sep 2006 at 13:21

Phate said:
yep, its literally a shell on wheels. Which to be honest is what i'm after, as if i got one with all of the above i would be stripping it down to the shell anyway, to take care of the rust alone. And then see about getting possibly new or refurb parts for it if they werent worth fixing.

Whoa, slow down, didn't you just have to cancel your order on a PowerMac as you were unsure about your job?

As for the car, personally, I would never just buy a rolling shell. Even if the car has got all the original documentation, maybe pics, you will have lost all the originality of vehicle. Taking it apart and paying to have it stripped down is the easy part, and you learn a lot doing it. Putting it back together is the hard part.

In the state its in, its almost like a 'half' restoration, unless you know what your doing. I'd wait and save up for something untouched, but not great and strip it down yourself. You'll learn a lot more that way and it will be easier to put it back together. As a shell like that, its almost a guessing game, and you'll have no real idea of what you need.

Start with a (mostly) whole car, end with a much better whole car.

Phate · 6 Sep 2006 at 13:23

Gaygle said:
First of all i'd pay off 14 G's for your car you have at the moment. Its a 06 plate isn't it? Why are you looking for a new car?? A project?

I intend to pay off my car next year and then get the 'stang and yes its an 06 plate, but i've always wanted a project car, and i love the fastbacks

From what i've heard restoration projects on cars and similar to restoration projects on houses, you go in thinkin it'll take x months and cost x amount, but its always more than that and they throw up things you haven't accounted for...

Dad's cougar first estimated 3 years took him over double that, and probably cost him more than he expected, he said he spent about 12k on it in the end. And with any project in anything it will throw up things you haven't accounted for. thats half the fun! amount of set backs on the cougar were ridiculous - the wiring loom around the boot looked ok but when tested turns out it didnt work, so dad made a loom, dunno how long it took though. but thats just an example

[huzeeee] · 6 Sep 2006 at 23:23

LOL, what car did you say that was- To be honest you need dimensions to replace pannels with that only YOU can measure when u take them off allignment would be a bugger, also engine:S I would honestley get a bit more than that to start- talking from experiance i have been restoring a mini for years. I would look for a bit more of a car to be honest as that will cost so much to get everything even silly costs like 2 quids worth of bolts. If you have a lot more you can work with a lot more whaste of time if you ask me.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1966-Ford-Mus...ryZ29755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

buy that instead