What do you think about intensive driving courses?

Depends what you mean by "bad luck". What sort of "driving test failing scenario" would involve failing because of bad luck?

I'd argue that it's probably just as easy to pass the test as it is to fail. What's the national first-time pass rate? About 45-46%?

The issue of being nervous for a driving test is a difficult one though, that's for sure. And I'm not sure there's an answer to that. Apart from the fact that if you're nervous, you're probably not confident that you'll pass, which means you should go and practice until you ARE confident that you'll pass.

*shrugs*

So whilst on your test you were absolutely 100% confident in your ability and knew without a doubt that you would pass your test? There is nothing wrong with being nervous, it's a basic human reaction. Probably better to be nervous than over confident.
 
I'm still waiting to find out what constitutes "bad luck" contributing to failing a driving test.

"Oh, bad luck on mowing down those dozen pedestrians, it could have happened to anyone."

:)
 
I did an intensive course - booked about 30 hours of lessons, ended up doing short stints of only 3 or 4 hours a day because of the hell it was playing on my knees, but 5 days of that was still more than enough.

Like other people have said though, it teaches you to pass a test, not to drive. I didnt really learn to drive properly until I'd been on the road for a good few months.
 
I'm still waiting to find out what constitutes "bad luck" contributing to failing a driving test.

"Oh, bad luck on mowing down those dozen pedestrians, it could have happened to anyone."

:)

Bad luck could be what happened to me on my 2nd test. I came onto a roundabout, and the examiner said to take the 2nd exit straight ahead.

I waited until the roundabout was clear, and moved off, and as i was coming into the exit at a suitable speed, approximately 20mph, a van came up on the inside lane at around 35-40mph, and because I was going into the exit ahead of him , he had to just drop his speed down, and I got my only major for that reason.

There is absolutely nothing I could have done about it, the road was clear when I had moved off, so if I slowed down for the van, I would have gotten a major for dangerous driving, if I had sped up, it would have also been a major for speeding, so I guess that could be seen as 'bad luck'.
 
What are the other 'crackers' then?

Driving is not something to be taken lightly, piloting a complex machine at speed that is quite capable of killing it not a joke. There are far too many total muppets on the road that simply aren't up to the job and should take the bus.
I guess most of these idiots who don't look where they are even going are the ones who failed multiple times on observation and got lucky then disregarded the rules once they'd passed.

I can't see why anyone would be against taking idiot drivers off the road, it's in the best interests of everybody.

Depends what you mean by "bad luck". What sort of "driving test failing scenario" would involve failing because of bad luck?

I'd argue that it's probably just as easy to pass the test as it is to fail. What's the national first-time pass rate? About 45-46%?

The issue of being nervous for a driving test is a difficult one though, that's for sure. And I'm not sure there's an answer to that. Apart from the fact that if you're nervous, you're probably not confident that you'll pass, which means you should go and practice until you ARE confident that you'll pass.

*shrugs*


Agreed, on both counts.


Being a little bit anxious about the test is normal, but once you're in the car and driving, this should go away. If it doesn't, you're not ready to drive on the roads unattended. Simple. Passing the test is not difficult, if you've had adequate tuition. If you're failing your test after 3+ times, this isn't due to just "bad luck". Bad luck would be making a silly little mistake, which would earn you a minor. You're allowed 15 (I think) of these before you fail ffs! Either your instructor is useless or you're not cut out drive.

Having a driving license is not a right, despite what many people might say.
 
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Bad luck could be what happened to me on my 2nd test. I came onto a roundabout, and the examiner said to take the 2nd exit straight ahead.

I waited until the roundabout was clear, and moved off, and as i was coming into the exit at a suitable speed, approximately 20mph, a van came up on the inside lane at around 35-40mph, and because I was going into the exit ahead of him , he had to just drop his speed down, and I got my only major for that reason.

There is absolutely nothing I could have done about it, the road was clear when I had moved off, so if I slowed down for the van, I would have gotten a major for dangerous driving, if I had sped up, it would have also been a major for speeding, so I guess that could be seen as 'bad luck'.

That makes no sense at all. How many exit lanes were there? If there was just one, what were you doing in the wrong lane? If there were two, why did you need to get into the left-hand lane?

If the van was speeding, you simply slow down and let him get on with it - that's definitely not a major fault, or even a minor fault. In fact I did something similar on my test (some idiot overtook me in a 30 zone). I had to brake hard when the car cut back in front of me too close, and the examiner said "well done" because I spotted a hazard and avoided it. Slowing down to avoid idiots on the road isn't a fault at all.
 
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