What does the poppy mean to you?

For me the Poppy is very simple, its a symbol of remembrance. I Ignore the political and ideological distractions, they have no place on that time and day. it comes down to purely remembering and respecting our fallen, I dont care about which conflict or the reasons behind it.

I dont care for the white poppy, but each to their own. I'm sure most people who wear it do so for entirely valid reasons and that is rightly their choice to do so.
 
to be honest .. not a lot it was a time long ago where they fought a war ..and did it badly but that's how it was done ..
rich officers sending waves of the poor to there deaths ..for what they called honour..
don't get me wrong for a short time I was in the army 14th/20th ..
would we have know any different now if we would have lost ? as the victor writes the history books ..prob not ..
war does a terrible thing to a man .. it changes him makes him think .. so instead of war maybe we should just think ..
 
I donate and wear it if my garment permits it.

I don’t think it’s worth thinking about too much. Mean what you want it to mean and some loose change gets donated.
 
So do you see it as a way purely to remember the dead, or to show your support for the armed forces in general?

To remember the dead. My maternal grandfather was Gunnery Officer on HMS Taciturn during WWII. He survived, but rarely talked about the war. I don't blame him.

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We buy a few paper ones and a solid pin one every year. For us, it represents remembering all those who have sacrificed for war, either dead or severely injured for life. I don't care what other people think and what they assume of me by wearing one.

The last time we were out of the country over armistice we were in Mexico. We requested the entertainer by the pool to announce a 2 minute silence for all those who wished to partake. An American guy beside us remarked "oh yeah, that's to remember all the fallen heroes of Vietnam right!". Me and the gf chuckled to ourselves but to be fair, it is whatever anyone wants it to be, why get riled?
 
For all those who needlessly lost their lives (on all sides) and how with our 'higher intelligence' we continue to be driven by our primal instincts. Also, given social media at the moment, compliance.
 
The red poppy was chosen (at least partly) because of the fields of them that grew out of the wrecked, barren battlefields after the First World War had ended. To me it symbolises new beginnings, hope, good coming out of something so terrible as well as remembering all of those who fell during conflict, regardless of which 'side' they were on.
 
The red poppy was chosen (at least partly) because of the fields of them that grew out of the wrecked, barren battlefields after the First World War had ended. To me it symbolises new beginnings, hope, good coming out of something so terrible as well as remembering all of those who fell during conflict, regardless of which 'side' they were on.

This.

I was lucky enough to to France in 2015 on a tour round the WW1 battlefields where my Scout Group's Founder Died. We visited Thiepval, and managed to get a picture which was stunning.

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An American guy beside us remarked "oh yeah, that's to remember all the fallen heroes of Vietnam right!".

The ignorance of Americans never ceases to amaze me.

Last time I was in the States, I made a passing comment about the Australian soldiers who'd fought in the Vietnam War. You should have seen the jaws drop.

'Australia fought in 'Nam? Seriously?! How come we never learned that at school?'

Just incredible.
 
The original intent was to give provide employment to disabled WW1 soldiers to actually make the poppies , the original factory is still there at Richmond Upon Thames
 
The ignorance of Americans never ceases to amaze me.

Last time I was in the States, I made a passing comment about the Australian soldiers who'd fought in the Vietnam War. You should have seen the jaws drop.

'Australia fought in 'Nam? Seriously?! How come we never learned that at school?'

Just incredible.

Theres a hilarious video on youtube where they have a map of the world and ask american members of the public to point and name a country.

Amazing how many of them point at Africa and say confidently, Africa and are then surprised when told thats a continent. One guy says "I know South Africa is around here somewhere" and gestures to the Morocco area of Africa (You would think South would be a clue)

One woman isnt sure which one is North America and says, "Im not sure which one is us, must be this big one right?" and gestures at Asia.

Loads of them point at Australia and say thats Europe yes?

I guess it might be a fake video but the sheer fact that there is even a doubt that it may be fake says everything about the standard of US general knowledge.
 
I guess it might be a fake video but the sheer fact that there is even a doubt that it may be fake says everything about the standard of US general knowledge.

No, it's a real video. But you don't know how long they were out there filming and which ones they left out. As a video of "How Ignorant Can Some People Be?" it's great. But as a condemnation of America, it's dodgy. How confident are you England would come across well if I spent an afternoon asking people milling around in any big city and picking out the best ones?

EDIT: That said, American world knowledge IS pretty poor compared to a lot of other nations. There's a great one with Russian kids showing greater knowledge of US politics and culture than American ones if I can find it.
 
How confident are you England would come across well if I spent an afternoon asking people milling around in any big city and picking out the best ones?.

I suspect we would come out similarly poorly. Its one of the ironies of modern life that we now have easier access to knowledge, and a far wider degree of knowledge at that, than ever before in history, yet with every passing year the average persons general knowledge seems to degrade further and further.
 
My grandfather installed in me that its to remember the sacrifice of those who didn't come back and you should wear it with pride. My great grandfather was a WWI veteran and his opinion was probably more anger than anything else or at least bitterness - there was and has been a lot of focus on "the glorious dead" but precious little for the glorious living - in many ways the dead were the lucky ones those who came back got little recognition or support as a result of getting shelled he was blind in one eye nearly blind in the other and profoundly deaf but got absolutely no support. I remember something my mother told me something he told her people at work would simply get up from their desks and walk off down the street for an hour or so, their way of dealing with the memories. No-one judged them for it but no-one offered them any support either these days we'd call it post traumatic stress disorder and they'd receive counselling back then you were expected to get on with it, stiff upper lip and all that.
 
No, it's a real video. But you don't know how long they were out there filming and which ones they left out. As a video of "How Ignorant Can Some People Be?" it's great. But as a condemnation of America, it's dodgy. How confident are you England would come across well if I spent an afternoon asking people milling around in any big city and picking out the best ones?

I can believe the cherry picking of who to show, and who to edit out.
I remember when the fact that Romania and Bulgaria were going to apply for entry into the E.U. was in the news, early 2000s maybe, there was a degree of disquiet about what affect it might have in U.K.
I was sitting on the taxi rank at Westminster Abbey, reading the paper, when a Spanish TV crew asked if they could film me, and ask a few questions about Europe.
They said they’d give me £25, and take 5 or 10 minutes, a no brainer.
They started rolling, and the guy produced a map of Europe, with the names of the countries missing, and asked me to point to Bulgaria and Romania.
I pointed just above Greece, and said, “That’s Bulgaria, and Romania is above that.”
He put the map away and said, “What’s the capital of Austria?” I told him Vienna, he went on, “and Luxembourg?”, I said, “It’s either Luxembourg, or Luxembourg City.” He then said, “Helsinki is in which country?”, I answered, “Finland.”
He said something in Spanish to the crew, and to me, “Thanks for your help.”
Somehow, I don’t think I starred on Spanish TV.
 
The red poppy was chosen (at least partly) because of the fields of them that grew out of the wrecked, barren battlefields after the First World War had ended. To me it symbolises new beginnings, hope, good coming out of something so terrible as well as remembering all of those who fell during conflict, regardless of which 'side' they were on.

This.
 
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