What essential tweaks / hacks do you apply to windows8?

Athanor said:
As much as you might want that to be true it's just plain twaddle. W8 has so far been recorded as selling at roughly the same velocity as W7, the best selling OS of all time.
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With the upgrade price being typically a third that of Windows 7 that would make it a bit of a comparative failure then. At £25 it should be shattering records willy nilly.

In fact since release W8 has already outsold the entire Mac OSX installed base world wide :)
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Well that's a meaningless statistic if ever I saw one.
 
MagicBoy said:
With the upgrade price being typically a third that of Windows 7 that would make it a bit of a comparative failure then. At £25 it should be shattering records willy nilly.
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There are a bunch of factors that contribute to sales velocity outside of price. When W7 released a lot of people were already waiting for a new OS having skipped Vista completely and so were stuck on an aging OS. With W8 the vast majority of it's natural market of early adopters has only just (comparatively) updated to Windows 7, which I think most will agree is a fine OS, so there is less initial "pent up" demand. Despite this it's sold at roughly the same speed which I suspect is a good indicator that the upgrade pricing promotion worked as intended.

Given how good W7 is I would expect W8 sales to grow organically as people upgrade PCs and move to touch devices rather than an "en masse" frenzy of purchase and upgrade on day one.


MagicBoy said:
Well that's a meaningless statistic if ever I saw one.
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Not really if you're trying to tie sales numbers to "flop" and "comparative failure". Sometime a bit of perspective helps :)
 
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That's still meaningless waffle IMO.

Go check out the OS market share statistics here : http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

I'm not going to get involved in the Windows version debate as it's an epic waste of my time. Given the amount of OEM licences and corporate users you are never going to be able to break down the statistics sensibly.

As for Windows 8 outselling the entire Mac OS X userbase :
Mac OS X 10.8 - 2.27%
Windows 8 - 1.72%

... and that's only one version. If your figures are indeed correct Microsoft might have sold more copies of Windows 8, but no-ones using it on the internet.
 
Talking of meaningless waffle do you really find it surprising that it takes time for Enterprises etc. to actually plan and deploy tens of thousands of users once they have purchased?

Entertainingly according to your choice of figures more people are still using the "failed" OS, Vista (5.67%) on the internet than even the most popular version of OSX (and in fact more than several OSX versions combined) :)
 
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Athanor said:
Talking of meaningless waffle do you really find it surprising that it takes time for Enterprises etc. to actually plan and deploy tens of thousands of users once they have purchased?

Entertainingly according to your choice of figures more people are still using the "failed" OS, Vista (5.67%) on the internet than even the most popular version of OSX (and in fact more than several versions combined :)
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I'm well aware of the Enterprise situation. I'm in the middle of a 3000+ seat kit refresh with Windows 7 with work.

Quoting the flawed statistics ... 5.67% of 90%+ market share is still an epic failure - around 7% of the installed versions of Windows. The OS X versions 10.6 to 10.8 are all pretty much a third split of the Mac share.

You obviously have a different definition of entertaining to most other people.
 
MagicBoy said:
I'm well aware of the Enterprise situation. I'm in the middle of a 3000+ seat kit refresh with Windows 7 with work
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Given you're still trying to deploy a 3 year old OS then you should really be able to understand that quantity of people reported as browsing the internet is not any kind of indication as to how successful the first three months after launch an OS is, conveniently dismissing actual sales numbers.
MagicBoy said:
You obviously have a different definition of entertaining to most other people.
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If you say so, I think the numbers, numbers you quoted by the way, are quite clear Vista, which you suggest is an "epic failure" is still used by more internet users that the two most popular versions of OSX. Your definition for "flop" of an OS seems to vary to suit whatever it is you're trying to suggest.

TBH you pretty much lost any credibility as soon as you suggested you're speaking on behalf of "most other people".
 
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Vista has been adopted by a lot of businesses (it's not too shabby with the service packs) and lets face it it only really had XP to compete with which was old as hell by the time Vista arrived, Windows 8 has Windows 7 to compete with which is pretty much as good besides a few tweaks and without the unintuitive UI.
 
Halfmad said:
I fine it amusing that people who are into tech don't like new innovations, agree or not the tile-style interface is most likely going to become more common as we move other devices to touch interfaces.
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I've been noticing this for a few years now with this current generation of so called techies. It's like the techies have become old geezers who can't adapt change, and the older aged people have become what the techies once were. Not scared to dive in and adapt.

_Jimlad_ said:
na some off you just want it to be better than it is and you believe it...

windows8 is built for the new order, which is tablets, the fact everything scrolls the wrong way should be big enough of a clue.

it's not so much about learning new stuff its having choice taken away a "classic" mode would not have hurt anyone
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You with the same mind set of Sepp Blatter, a dinosaur?
 
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server 2012 is also excellent
 
_Jimlad_ said:
Take the Mac v win argument elsewhere.
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Actually it was a discussion, and with all due respect to Magicboy it was a healthy, if robust ;) discussion around sales and deployment numbers and what makes for a successful OS. Particularly relevant as we were debating Win8 sales velocity compared to Win7, Vista and Mac OSX. Discussing OS in an OS oriented thread, in an OS titled section of a computer forum, whatever next?!?! :)


Did we miss your promotion to thread police somewhere? ;)
 
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Not an app, but this looks pretty good.

https://www.pokki.com/windows-8-start-menu

Also if anyone has purchased anything from the App store and paid via Paypal: Does it only accept payments from your Paypal linked to your Windows Login ID?

I tried making a payment for an app using my Paypal account and after clicking pay now the Paypal transaction screen wouldn't proceed to confirm payment.

Xbox arcade games on the PC. Can't say I'm impressed with the titles:

playxbla.com » windows8

Additionally is it possible to have 2 or more sidebars? I would like to install MetroTwit below PinSteam (See my previous post).
 
Bought it a few days ago before the upgrade price expires @ £24.99. IMO its by far the worse OS since ME & MS are going to lose a lot of market share if they do not make their next OS more desktop PC friendly as 8 is clearly designed to run on anything but a desktop & someone within MS decided at the last moment to add some desktop UI functionality :rolleyes: (Probably the same person who fired Windows longtime boss quite rightly as 8 is the product of someone far removed from the desktop PC).

Its not faster than 7 either at least not for me its about the same with identical hardware :rolleyes:

Start 8 is the best app to buy IMO for the price (under £3 if you like them on facebook you get an extra 10% off) it allows you to tweak so 8 boots straight into the desktop with a Windws 7 ish UI. Now I have 8 running as I want it I can clearly see I will hardly ever use it as 7 offers practically everything you need on a desktop PC & its quite staggering how anyone @ MS even considered 8 as a desktop PC its not just the UI so many other strange decisions were made its like MS took everything good about 7 & decided to throw it all away for some bizarre reason :(

https://store.stardock.com/product/ESD-SDS-W1211
 
V F said:
I've been noticing this for a few years now with this current generation of so called techies. It's like the techies have become old geezers who can't adapt change, and the older aged people have become what the techies once were. Not scared to dive in and adapt.



You with the same mind set of Sepp Blatter, a dinosaur?
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What a poor comment. Sepp Blatter does not want any change.. I'm happy with change but prefer options to customise and avoid mass retraining in the work place
 
AWPC said:
Bought it a few days ago before the upgrade price expires @ £24.99. IMO its by far the worse OS since ME & MS are going to lose a lot of market share if they do not make their next OS more desktop PC friendly as 8 is clearly designed to run on anything but a desktop & someone within MS decided at the last moment to add some desktop UI functionality :rolleyes: (Probably the same person who fired Windows longtime boss quite rightly as 8 is the product of someone far removed from the desktop PC).
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You mean Steven Sinofsky? The guy who headed development of the world's most popular desktop operating system, Windows 7?

Yeah, he's a smart guy. He probably though it might be a good idea to create a new OS for a world in which laptops dominate and tablet sales are exploding instead of making A.N.Other desktop-oriented OS for a market that will probably stick to Windows 7 anyway.
 
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