what F1 rules would you implament?

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Glaucus

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We all moan about this and that rules in threads. So what would be your implementation if you ran F1.

Get rid off DRS
Get rid of two tyre compound rule -this kills strategy.
Further reduce aero, especially aero that creates dirty air. Aero is not research that helps anyone and is an insane amount of money for no tangible benefit. Far better pumping said money into ERS which is very relevant to the car industry at the moment.
Increase/deregulated ERS systems
Structured fuel decrease allowance. Say like reduce fuel limit by 5kilos every third year.

SC stays out as short as possible, cars do not unlap themselves.
More sectors both for us spectators and for yellow/double yellow flag delta times. Much like the delta tipmes for SC.
Run off areas need sorting, at minimum need foam chicanes to drive around, even better is good chance of destroying tyres/breaking cars


Better wet weather tyres.
Minimum adjustable tub height for wet weather races.
Allow big set up changes if starting on inters/wet and at pitstops if it start dry.
Research if it's possible to massively reduce spray without having wheel guards/flaps. Maybe a standard aero part behind the wheel would massively reduce it. Either way should be researched. Even if it's given up as unworkable after a few years.

Free app on all platforms, pit coms, lap and sector time etc and for free, they make enough money, time to engage with fans.

A standardised electronic rule book. So we don't get 600 interpretations of rules and punishments. That way stewards can bring up every punishment for that rule and see what was implemented, even play videos of past incidents if needed.

Punishments to be decided with in 10laps. And if in last 10laps before podium. There is no need to talk to driver.



There's probably more but what would you guys do.
 
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I'm not sure about the wet tyres. To make better performing wets means they're more efficient at clearing water, which generally means more spray, and the drivers were already saying the spray is too much with this years wets. They need to close the gap between the wet and inter, but in doing so means the safety car, or the red flags, will be out more frequently. It's a no win situation with a properly wet track.
 
Chqnge engine rules to free. 3.2 v8 n/a or 1.6l turbo anything goes but a max of 4 engines a season :)


Electronics are free and a choice of tyres

Anyone doing massive rolling burn outs or donuts after a race gets a bonus point
 
I would dump ERS and DRS.

All cars to have a standard Front\Rear wings and floor.
They can use both soft and hard tires at the same time(aka MotoGp)
Bring back V8 or V10 engines. More cars in the world now are sold with a V8 in them so will help the car industry.

Kick Hermann Tilke out of all motor sport.
F1 to setup their own race org and rules and make it cheaper to watch F1.
More women in F1.

Make F1 free to view again.

Just thought. When we leave the EU we can have the guy with the flag on the track again
and drivers can carry their own in the car :)
 
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Getting rid of the two compound rule won't bring back varied strategies, while ever every car carries the same amount of the fuel there won't be any major differences in strategies. The two compound rule is simply there to solve the problem they created where drivers no longer needed to pit due to abolishing fuel stops.

As for topic I'd just undo all of the artificial rubbish that has crept into the sport over the last 10 years in order to popularise F1 with casual observers, a lot of the recent rules like rubbish tyres, fixed fuel amounts and fuel flow limits are designed to stifle driver ability. ie. the best drivers aren't able to excel as much as much as they would normally and are far more dependent on their car. I'd love see Alonso being able to drive the wheels off his Ferrari, or Hamilton with McLaren in previous years.
 
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Reverse grids, that would be funny as hell. Imagine at Monaco first 2 rows completed by the Marussia's/caterhams, with the Mercedes'/Red bulls' trying to come through the field.

Would like for the drivers to not have to think about fuel level's, or tyre degradation. Give them tyres that will easily last to the end of the race, fuel that is easily enough, and let's see who really is the 'best driver in the world'
 
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Keep the engine forumla, i think it works well but leave it open to development. It's the way motoring world is going and F1 should follow suit.

I would make the fuel limit a little more realistic (but still keep it nip and tuck so cars are almost running dry at the end) to reduce drivers nursing their cars and so they can use full revs.

I would then introduce targets to push engine manufacturers to reduce fuel usage through research for alternative fuels and finding power from other systems each season. Engine development freezes are counter productive. I think the power is enough but they should be allowed to be closer in power and not have to worry too much about running out of fuel, so long as they are not being wasteful with it.

There should be some tyre competition. But I feel maybe have a test each year and the teams vote for which manufacturer they use for that season, so teams arent hampered by the wrong tyre choice!

Aero wise, rear wings should lower and wider to help cars follow each other closer. Bin DRS as it highlights slower cars and makes faster cars untouchable in those circumstances. The clean and tight packaging between the axels is a great progress so leave that be. The chassis to nose section regulations should be scrapped. I think it's a costly development with little to no benefit for safety. There should be a happy medium available where aesthetics aren't a joke and the cars can develop good front end downforce without launching a car skywards at the slightest touch. We've seen more rollovers recently which is far more dangerous then the unlikely t-bone situation enroaching on the cockpit IMO.
 
Revised point system so every car that finishes the race gets at least 1 point (last finisher).

Random draw ahead of season that allocates a driver to a team for each venue, where each team must be used at least once. Lets see which drivers adapt the best to different cars to win a driver championship and which car gets the most consistent race postitions to win the constructors championship.

Spread the race meeting out more evenly, none of this back-to-back and then 3-week break malarkey.

Increase the number of practice sessions over more days, but with the exception of final practice (where they can do long fuel runs), reduce the time of each session, giving the drivers time in the real car that can then be supplemented with simulation work (to help adjust to different car characteristics).

The best finish for each driver in a car counts towards the drivers and constructors championship, so the worst results are ignored.

In wet conditions, if a driver goes off track, all cars have to driver through that section at a preset speed below the aquaplaning threshold (~50mph).

In safety car situations, lapped cars must peel off the track and into the pit lane at the end of second safety car lap, where they should queue up in order at the pit lane exit behind the red light. Once all cars on the leading lap have passed this point, the pit lane exit light becomes green and lappers rejoin the train at the back.
 
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Kick Hermann Tilke out of all motor sport.
F1 to setup their own race org and rules and make it cheaper to watch F1.
More women in F1.

Make F1 free to view again.

Just thought. When we leave the EU we can have the guy with the flag on the track again
and drivers can carry their own in the car :)
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agree with the above
 
Yep Herman tilke out. How is is so hard to design good tracks? It's hardly difficult!

More power from energy recovery - bigger hp boost.. And.. That you have 5 minutes allowed per race. You can use this whenever you want. If your battery can deliver 5 minutes and give you it all in one go.. Go for it.
Driver chooses when to use it.. I think this would be fantastic!
This could allow drs to be scrapped!

I like tyre rules. But I think each team should be able to choose what they run at start of the year and midway. That way you can't moan at Pirelli if you have to make 10 stops!

Strict budget cap somehow policed with more freedom to innovate

Overall these are designed to empower the team and driver rather the fia
 
I'd ban the radio communication completely! really annoying when you get drivers bleating about their team mate holding them up or when they're having to bump and barge a bit with another car. Like Alonso and Vettel at one of the races early this year :mad:
 
So all these lovely rules you guys want implemented, how would you pay for this all? What will you do when one team hits the magical formula like Brawn did in 2009 (and imagine if that team was Mercedes or Ferrari with enough money to develop the car as well!) and it's a 1-2 by 30 seconds a race and that team implements team orders as happened in the Schumacher Ferrari years when everyone said the racing was incredibly dull and boring? What happens when Renault and Ferrari are 60HP down on the Mercedes engine which also gets better mileage? Sure, it SOUNDS wonderful (and would likely sound wonderful too) but would be ridiculously, cripplingly expensive and likely to make races into the way it used to be. Passes during Pit Stops (which are dull compared to passes on track) and strategy becoming even more important than it is now.

F1 went Hybrid 1.6L V6's because they had no choice. Relatively large capacity high revving NA engines were a dying breed and had been developed to their nth degree meaning there were little gains that cost a fortune to gain. Renault wanted out and said they would leave if the engine formula wasn't changed to be more relevant to road cars and Honda are coming back purely because of the change top Hybrid, turbo charged engines of a relatively small capacity. If Renault pulled out F1 would be dead. Both Ferrari and Mercedes said they couldn't afford nor wanted to supply at least half the field.

Dream all you want but F1 lives in the real world.

What will you do when TV numbers are down as there are many more casual viewers than techy F1 diehards?

Also the chap who mentioned rear wings being wider and lower making cars more able to follow another. That would make the issue worse. Rear wings used to be double the width and much lower and it was impossible to close within about 30-40M of another car without suffering from a loss of front down force meaning you were slower in the corners and even further behind on the straight. The wings have been purposefully made narrower at the front and taller and thinner at the rear to make following another car easier, not more difficult.
 
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Bring back active suspension.


Perhaps as a 'stock' part to make it cheaper. Would lessen the setup costs dramatically. Would increase mechanical grip (perhaps a reduction in aero with it) which would lead to closer racing.
Would enable a ride height change for wet weather without much issue which would solve all this belly pan aquaplaning stuff that's the scourge of wet races these days.
 
Fuel saving happens REGARDLESS OF FUEL LIMITS or refuelling being allowed. Because more fuel carries weight and slows the car even by small fractions of a second it's still a weight and a problem. If you were allowed unlimited fuel there would still be a sweet spot in getting to the end in the fastest time possible and it would almost certainly not be based on simply maxing out the tank and going flat out. You have tires, engine life, brakes, everything adds to the various limits of the car and all those things collectively give a optimised speed/lap time/fuel amount required to hit that optimised lap.

No point carrying an extra 20kg of fuel if it pushes the balance backwards while also the extra flooring it they can do just pushes the tires too hard.

Likewise, the power, al4x, you seem to fundamentally not understand the power systems. They currently use a LOT more than 5 minutes of power in a race and no one could afford to fit a battery that could even provide 1 minute continuously. Batteries are heavy and constant charging and discharging is the only way to get any sensible use out of it at all. It's a fundamental part of how efficiency is achieved, the fuel limits are hit and how the cars go as fast as they do. The entire engines is designed around collecting energy then using it to get the car up to speed again.

The power usage is also effectively only limited by how much they can harvest. Kers per lap is limited to 4MJ output in a single lap, and it can only harvest 2MJ though the same MGU-K per lap, but MGU-H harvesting is completely unlimited, and energy put back into the turbo is unlimited.
Kers power is equivalent to 16 seconds at 160hp boost a lap IIRC, which is over a 50 lap race around 13 minutes of kers power they are allowed to push out in a race now and that doesn't include power they can push into turbo. 5 minutes of kers power in a race would make everyone slower, the racing poorer, it's not feasible to save that power till later in the race, no one can afford to have a weight of battery that could store more than 20 seconds worth of power, so everyone would use it to overall have a faster car as they do now.
 
Yes I know it's not feasible via energy recovery. And that battery technology is one of the (if not the) single biggest hold back of mainstream electric cars.
But you don't even need it to be battery boost. It could be more fuel flow, anything.
The 5 minutes was also arbitrary.
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