what F1 rules would you implament?

I really hate all these run off areas - Armco barrier or gravel.
Refuelling.
Keep fuel limit but remove 100 litre per hour flow rate - I want to see engines eating their turbos, cars running out of fuel.

I think there needs to be a blend of the 1990s (when I was little) era of screaming engines, tyres flying off, fires, crashes and just general more excitement, with today's needs of safety and eco-ness.
I realise Jules is seriously ill but F1 does not need to be more safe. He was driving fast in the wet. **** happens.

This year I went to the British F1 and it was amazing, aside from the race being halted for an hour due to a damaged barrier? Come on....was it really necessary?
 
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I would award bonus constructors points, for each litre under the fuel limit that an engine uses, perhaps have an engine manufacturers championship, with points awarded each race to the manufacturers of the top 3 fuel efficient cars.
 
OpenToSuggestions said:
I really hate all these run off areas - Armco barrier or gravel.
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This year I went to the British F1 and it was amazing, aside from the race being halted for an hour due to a damaged barrier? Come on....was it really necessary?
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You want less run off areas, but then complain about red flags after somebody running off and hitting a barrier?

Reducing run off areas will increase the frequency of races being red flagged.
 
Rather than double points for the final race of the season....

Once the qualifying has been completed for the last GP, all drivers are ranked by their 'average' grid position and awarded points equivalent to a GP i.e. 25 points for the person ranked as being best in qualyfying, 18 for the second etc.
 
Alienfish360 said:
You want less run off areas, but then complain about red flags after somebody running off and hitting a barrier?

Reducing run off areas will increase the frequency of races being red flagged.
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His point was more about the ridiculousness of F1 authorities stopping the race for an hour to replace a barrier that had a dent in it.

The run off areas wouldn't be so bad (still bad though) if authorities enforced the 4 wheels off the track rule, it grates me no end that drivers today just use them as an extension to the track whenever it suits and nothing is ever done about it. It's as good as cheating the way drivers exploit them today to save vital seconds after making mistakes. Bravery was always a major part of F1 in the past because drivers knew that one mistake could result in retirement and the skill was in finding maximum speed without throwing their race away, drivers today have nothing to fear from pushing too hard because if they make any mistakes there's a big whack off runoff to rescue them.
 
Stop using Tilke tracks. Put Imola on the calendar.

Simpler rules. A maximum combined power output, 100KG fuel for the race. Set amount of tyre compound per car to be used how you wish.
 
Tilke tracks are held in very high regard around the World which is why his company is repeatedly used. The problem is not Tilke's design, but more the restrictions which he must abide by (something which the older tracks didnt have to abide by).

New rule: All teams are permitted to field upto 3 cars.
This gives us the possibility of a team fielding 3 top class drivers in the same car.
 
By whom? Not the fans, that's for sure.

Tilke designs Mickey Mouse theme park tracks that all blend in to one amorphous blob of blandness. They have no distinguishing features when you drive one. The nearest any gets gets to a epic corner was turn 8 in Turkey. He's never getting forgiven for butchering Hockenheim either.

I knocked up better tracks in primary school using Grand Prix Construction Set for the BBC B.

Tarmac run offs were a good idea on about three corners throughout the season. The rest should get ripped out and replaced with really slippery grass, sand traps 6 feet deep or a massive spike that could impale a car. Anything but some dirty painted tarmac. If the drivers make a boo-boo they should get punished, not get a Rosberg-style mulligan so they can try a less illegal pass the lap after.

DRS - fine.
Tyres - fine.
Refuelling, active ride, traction control etc. - keep them banned.

Engines - keep the turbos. I'd free up the rules to allow something other than a V6, then again it's the best package for that capacity so that's what everyone would run anyway.

Now for the biggy - a rigorously enforced cost cap. If F1 has to go down the route of more control parts to prevent the teams blowing millions on a tiny advantage then that's fine with me.
 
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F1 is meant to be the pinnacle of motorsport pushing the boundaries blah blah blah.

I would simply put a capacity limit on the engines. And the car must fit inside a box of a certain size.

Apart from that a sensible limit on the amount of engines and gearboxes they can use per season and everyone runs the same fuel.

Bring back re-fueling but with a mandatory pit stop length for safety.

Whilst I understand that may push up the costs I think the transferable tech to the road could go somewhere to compensate the teams.
 
mattyg said:
Whilst I understand that may push up the costs I think the transferable tech to the road could go somewhere to compensate the teams.
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That's all good and well for the big teams, but we've already got small teams disappearing on a fraction of the budget. Who are you going to attract with the promise of licensing technology for the average road user to make £50m a year? You might get Audi if the rumours are true, but we're likely to lose Sauber and possibly Force India and Lotus in the coming months, as well as the two teams currently in administration.

It's a far cry from the 80s and early 90s where you have teams knocking up cars in an italian shed, strapping in whatever legal engine they could find, getting to the track and being 12 seconds off the pace.
 
The one car idea is a good one and they should be allowed 'wildcard' entries to run a second car if a driver comes to them with enough cash. I would also like to see single car sponsorship. At the moment the rules say both cars should look identical but the smaller teams could likely get more sponsorship if they can offer a single car paint job for half the cash.
 
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That's all good and well for the big teams, but we've already got small teams disappearing on a fraction of the budget. Who are you going to attract with the promise of licensing technology for the average road user to make £50m a year? You might get Audi if the rumours are true, but we're likely to lose Sauber and possibly Force India and Lotus in the coming months, as well as the two teams currently in administration.

It's a far cry from the 80s and early 90s where you have teams knocking up cars in an italian shed, strapping in whatever legal engine they could find, getting to the track and being 12 seconds off the pace.
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What small teams?

Its the pinnacle of motorsport. There's a reason Accrington Stanley don't play in the premiership.

Its unfortunate for the small teams currently in F1 but surely its better for them to be the best in a lower class than last in F1.

And budgets don't guarantee a winning team. Ferrari for instance
 
It's the pinnacle of motorsport, but it won't be if you have 14 car grids. People just won't tune in, sponsors would pull out, manufacturers would pull out and the value of the sport is gone. Drivers will go to one of the inevitable few breakaway series or head over to America or into WEC.

It's not sustainable at the current rate. All we need at the moment are a couple of manufacturers to pull out (and remember Honda, Toyota and BMW all pulled out within a year of each other) and it would take a monumental effort for F1 to survive beyond a couple of years. The difference in 2009 was that the independent teams were there to pick up the pieces, but if there are no independent teams the next time it happens because it's unsustainable...?

Something has to change.
 
The balance is very fine. Without some form of control over costs, however it is implemented, then the biggest spenders will always have a far greater chance of winning. Of course, there'll still be surprises, normally around rule changes or bright young design and driver talent, but they'll be the exception.

The trouble is that without some control of costs the smaller teams simply have no chance of winning. None. Barring accidents or freak circumstances, there is zero chance of seeing a Marussia or a Caterham win a race and there never will be without huge investment. Huge investment that cannot yield a return unless your F1 business is complementary to your other businesses. Even then those benefits are not always financially tangible.

On the other hand, you can't go to far and over-reward. If costs are too rigidly controlled and the income is high, then any team can rock up with a £50 million budget and walk away at the end of the season with £10 million profit in the bank. An extreme example but you get the point - that's a business case on which even I could get funding to run my own F1 team.

Unfortunately, IMO, F1 really isn't the pinnacle of motorsport any longer. It used to dominate that accolade - it was the fastest, the quickest, the loudest, the most glamorous and the most innovative. It still is some of those but not all. That doesn't take anything away from the teams, who still amaze me each year by essentially building 80% of a car from scratch inside 6 months, test it for a ludicrously small number of hours and then hurtle it around a track at amazing speeds for another 6 months. But it needs more.

One thing F1 really needs is far, far more engagement with the wider fan base. Not just the people like here, who read about every day of the week, search out information and discuss it, but also the casual viewer who probably doesn't even watch most qualifying sessions and instead just tunes in for the races. They have around 40 hours exposure to F1 every year - that's it - and F1 really needs to engage with them far more.

That said, next year I'll drag myself over to Jerez for pre-season testing again, and then on to a race or two during the season. I still love it, plus it gives me more moral right to moan about it :D
 
Reduce Aero all round.
* Double element front wing - standardized single continuous chord on each element.
* Double element rear wing - standardized single continuous chord on each element.
* Front and rear wing endplates to be flat. No holes, slits, or extra winglets.
* Completely flat floor up to rear axle - diffuser starts at that line.
* No aerodynamic pieces between front axle and rear axle other than what is needed to cover mechanicals. Barge boards, keel flow managers, those stupid sidepod winglets banned.
* Floor to be the minimum boundary distance for the area covered. Means no holes, slits and so on.
* Standardized steel uprights
* Standardized wheel rim designs - 16" - Time to join the 20th century guys
* Suspension arms to be made from steel
* No DRS
* Ditch the run both tyre rule.
* Teams outside the top 4 in the previous year can run a 3rd car on the Friday.
* As the engines are now standard mountings, open up the teams to sell tubs to other teams. Teams still have to design their own aero package around that tub, whether they build them or buy them.
* 50% increase in diffuser height either side of the exhaust to the inside of the wheels.

I'm sure I have more things floating around in my brain, this is just from a moments thinking.

I'd love to have more open engine rules, keep the fuel limit but have a price limit on selling them to the teams - say, $10mil. But you can produce a 1.5l V12 revving it's nuts off, or a 1l 3cylinder turbo boost monster or anything inbetween.
 
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Remove all car design rules, bar basic overall dimensions, open wheel/cockpit, number of wheels, etc.

Allow teams to keep things such as DRS and ERS, but remove the limits on when they can be used.

Set development and build spending limit.

Distribute revenue equally between all teams.

Put point scoring back to 03-09 system.
 
Burned_Alive said:
Remove all car design rules, bar basic overall dimensions, open wheel/cockpit, number of wheels, etc.

Allow teams to keep things such as DRS and ERS, but remove the limits on when they can be used.
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The drivers couldn't cope without blacking out. You're probably talking about 20 seconds a lap quicker if you had a ground effect and no real limits on other aero devices.
 
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