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What have AMD got planned to catch Intel?

geordiepaul

geordiepaul

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Always been a fan on AMD over Intel and have always bought AMD but unfortunately my Athlon 64 X2 lags behind the new chips from Intel quite some bit.

It's the first time I can remember when AMD have been so far beind Intel but I will still refuse to buy Intel cos I don't like the Bing bong bing adverts ;-)

Have AMD got plans to catch up?
 
Your gonna be waiting best part of a year for anything significant from AMD unless they have something up their sleeve they've been keeping quiet - which isn't like them - and even then intel will probably have shifted the goal posts quite a bit...

AMD's plan atm seems to be to move into the business workstation/server market, prolly be a couple of years or more before they go head to head with intel again.
 
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
I will never buy Intel! So without competition from AMD Intel can charge what they like....just as they have in the past! They're already overpriced!

Rroff said:
Your gonna be waiting best part of a year for anything significant from AMD unless they have something up their sleeve they've been keeping quiet - which isn't like them - and even then intel will probably have shifted the goal posts quite a bit...

AMD's plan atm seems to be to move into the business workstation/server market, prolly be a couple of years or more before they go head to head with intel again.
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Conroes arnt too badly priced these days for what you get i see no reason to stick with brand loyalty when all your going to get is an out of date much worse performing product
 
It's kinda dumb to never buy from a company for no real reason. the Conroes are excellent right now, buy whats best, not from any set company.
 
When intels original pentiums were creaming AMDs k-5 and k-6 i bet a lot of enthusiasts were saying how "they would never get an AMD processor/ be seen owning one" yet the sheer dominance of the thoroughbred/barton XP's and the athlon64's probably forced a lot of them to re-think their stance.
At the moment intel is beating AMD at its own game with its new core processors, offering cheaper cpu's that run faster than the AMD equivelant.
After-all isnt that the reason most of us swapped from intel to AMD originally?
Who knows when it will swing back into AMD's favour, if it ever will, they are still dwarfed by intels RnD, 4x4 looks......well i havent made my mind up to be honest but its going to be expensive however it performs, acquiring ATI is an interesting prospect if only for the fact they can continue producing GPU's on older fab plants, who knows what going to happen, to say you arent ever going to buy intel whatever happens is quite a silly idea in my opinion though
 
It's pretty pointless to stick with just Intel or AMD for the sake of it. They both produce excellent CPUs and keep each other competitive.

Just get the best bang for buck at the time. I have an AMD / ATI combo in my desktop and an Intel / nVIDIA combo in my laptop. Perfectly happy with both and they both do a great job of handling whatever I throw at them.
 
d00d said:
i'll never ever gonna buy intel stuff. no matter what :P
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You serious?

If you are they you are a fanboy if I ever saw one.

Intel are the best at the moment, and are for the next 6 months and very probably for the next year.

If you want to spend money on a inferior product go ahead :rolleyes:
 
Rroff said:
Your gonna be waiting best part of a year for anything significant from AMD unless they have something up their sleeve they've been keeping quiet - which isn't like them - and even then intel will probably have shifted the goal posts quite a bit...

AMD's plan atm seems to be to move into the business workstation/server market, prolly be a couple of years or more before they go head to head with intel again.
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Errrm that is completely misinformed.
AMD are moving to 65nm at the end of this year (only really worth noting, we won't see much performance gain from this first off).

Then in Q2 07.... 6months away, we should see the first native quad core K8L or barcelona or whatever people want to call it. If this doesn't outpace the equivalent C2Quad i will be very suprised. There not much but small revision changes on the intel roadmap so performance will likely not be that far from where it is today.

AMD are getting all they can out ofm the server market right now because they have the sought after product. C2D isn't really proven enough in the server arena for people to start migrating and the planned future of AM2 socket means cheap future upgrades for businesses should they want it. They are certainly not migrating their designs over to this area, they just have products which suit both.

If you are buying a CPU now and building from scratch then C2D is the way forward, unless, like i have said previously, you have a tight budget for future upgrades. I went with an X2 because i have banked on K8L being stupid fast and so when i upgrade in 8-10 months i'm only gonna have to buy the CPU.
I may get screwed and K8L is a dud but i highly doubt it.
 
My first CPU was P3 then after i had AMD 2800 Barton and Winchester 3200+ due to them being the best performance for the money at the time.

If i was to buy now it would definately buy a Core 2 Due but im currently waitting for the Quad Cores to pop up and depending on AMD / Intels performance against each other i'll then have to choose which is there and then best performance over cost.

Im very tempted by the Core 2 Duo's but i must resist alittle longer hehe :D
 
Well as far as i'm concerned Intel seem to be on top with the c2d and thats what I am going to have, Just got to finnish saving for the beast though lol....
 
I'll probably be upgrading my Opty rig next summer.

Don't know if AMD will have anything to bring to the table then, but if not it'll probably be back to Intel again.

I just hope there are some decent overclocking boards for around £80 next year, cos the conroe boards all seem well expensive atm.
 
Its an easy choice if your on a budget
if you currently have ddr memory mobo stick with amd

if your totally upgrading ie new motherboard and mem get conroe

youll need a good mobo and decent memory to get the best out of your conroe but it is the dogs danglies if your doing a full upgrade,

its a bit like graphics cards you own the best then 6 months later it sucks compared to newer models but ultimately its still useable , its not like it ceases to function :)
im all amd stuff here at the mo and will upgrade once dx10 has emerged and gone past the initial greatr expense of being new , then ill choose the cpu mobo based on part price and whats best at the time be it intel or amd
 
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