what headphones do you own thread - i own dt150's :)

[Raymond Lin]

Side note, I have been trying my lesser used headphones this morning on the X9, the Sennheiser Momentum (original, wired, onear) sounded excellent, it scaled with the amp.

Sony MDR 7506 however, it does not scale, and not to exggerate, but back to back with the others, the 7506 is not great. I mean they are under £80 but still....it should be better, and the amp detects it as 60ohm, higher than I thought.

 

[Timber]

I didn't know earlier you can get the foam part separately, but I stumbled upon it and then found the same thing on Aliexpress. It's only 93p in the end. I actually only need the right side, not the left.

That's cool. Tbh I only bought some because I noticed when you take pads of any HD 6x0 they have a tendency to 'cut' through the foam discs. Not that I take the earpads off a lot though.

Side note, I have been trying my lesser used headphones this morning on the X9, the Sennheiser Momentum (original, wired, onear) sounded excellent, it scaled with the amp.

Sony MDR 7506 however, it does not scale, and not to exggerate, but back to back with the others, the 7506 is not great. I mean they are under £80 but still....it should be better, and the amp detects it as 60ohm, higher than I thought.

I've always wanted to try the 7506's. Not really a closed-back fan, but sometimes when people talk about them the praise is massive. Although I've realised some of that is voice actors, or voice over artists who love them.

What's the treble on them like; Spicy, or fairly neutral?

 

[Raymond Lin]

That's cool. Tbh I only bought some because I noticed when you take pads of any HD 6x0 they have a tendency to 'cut' through the foam discs. Not that I take the earpads off a lot though.



I've always wanted to try the 7506's. Not really a closed-back fan, but sometimes when people talk about them the praise is massive. Although I've realised some of that is voice actors, or voice over artists who love them.

What's the treble on them like; Spicy, or fairly neutral?

The treble, or the lack of top end is the immediate thing you notice, i haven't looked at it's graph but I am guessing it lack the top end in a massive way. As a result it feels really "not detailed", what's the word in audio for that? lacks clarity?

The bass doesn't feel that deep either and if I turn it up, it sounds boomy in my head. It sounds okay when listening to a YouTube video where there is a lot of talking but even that it sounds like it is like i am standing behind a Japanese screen door. It is hard to pick out instruments when there are a lot going on.

Putting it through the DX5 II it doesn't sound any worse.

I am actually quite shocked how bad it is in compared to the others, I have said in the past that these are like the studio standard headphones are they are used widlely in recording studios but now I am wondering why?! I am not applying any PEQ in the amp. The most strikeing thing is the lack of dynamics, like everything is very narrow in the hz range, as if someone put it through a compressor.

 

[Timber]

The treble, or the lack of top end is the immediate thing you notice, i haven't looked at it's graph but I am guessing it lack the top end in a massive way. As a result it feels really "not detailed", what's the word in audio for that? lacks clarity?

The bass doesn't feel that deep either and if I turn it up, it sounds boomy in my head. It sounds okay when listening to a YouTube video where there is a lot of talking but even that it sounds like it is like i am standing behind a Japanese screen door. It is hard to pick out instruments when there are a lot going on.

Putting it through the DX5 II it doesn't sound any worse.

I am actually quite shocked how bad it is in compared to the others, I have said in the past that these are like the studio standard headphones are they are used widlely in recording studios but now I am wondering why?! I am not applying any PEQ in the amp. The most strikeing thing is the lack of dynamics, like everything is very narrow in the hz range, as if someone put it through a compressor.

Ty. It read like they lack excitement, or airiness. Maybe sparkle. For what they are I expect them to be fairly neutral, boring even, but you often read people saying they have too much treble. Out of curiosity I just always wondered what they are like. Also they are one of these headphones that are very lightweight.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Ty. It read like they lack excitement, or airiness. Maybe sparkle. For what they are I expect them to be fairly neutral, boring even, but you often read people saying they have too much treble. Out of curiosity I just always wondered what they are like. Also they are one of these headphones that are very lightweight.

Boring is very apt, they are VERY boring.

As for light...what is annoying is the coiled cable, that needs to be supported, if not, it weights down the headphones and any pull on it cause the left ear cup constantly and everytime it moves a little it creaks.

 

[mrk]

I am actually quite shocked how bad it is in compared to the others, I have said in the past that these are like the studio standard headphones are they are used widlely in recording studios but now I am wondering why?! I am not applying any PEQ in the amp. The most strikeing thing is the lack of dynamics, like everything is very narrow in the hz range, as if someone put it through a compressor.

This is the other problem with audiophile/studiophile gear, certain models get such a reputation online, even if they're subjectively rubbish compared to others due to, as you found, lacking any clarity/detail in certain ranges or something else.

 

[Raymond Lin]

This is the other problem with audiophile/studiophile gear, certain models get such a reputation online, even if they're subjectively rubbish compared to others due to, as you found, lacking any clarity/detail in certain ranges or something else.

btw, in all the moving the amp to trying to find a spot on my desk yesterday....the imbalance problem went away...I was listening away all night until lik 2am..and then....this morning.

Chat with my sister.

 

[mrk]

Yeah you will likely find it does come back as I found that too, goes away, set balance to 0, then later in the day suddenly bias is back so have to go back to like +8.5 again.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Yeah you will likely find it does come back as I found that too, goes away, set balance to 0, then later in the day suddenly bias is back so have to go back to like +8.5 again.

At least it can be adjusted quickly.

 

[Timber]

This is the other problem with audiophile/studiophile gear, certain models get such a reputation online, even if they're subjectively rubbish compared to others due to, as you found, lacking any clarity/detail in certain ranges or something else.

Noise. Worse than ever with social media too.

But in the 7506s defense, they are cheap and meant to be very neutral headphones which lend themselves very well to some studio work. Probably do punch above their weight, but are very consistent and don't grow on expensive amps. Or at least that what I expect and seems to line up with what Raymond said.

 

[mrk]

Maybe they are cheap because of the lack of scaling, which indicates they were developed with fixed tuning in mind rather than scalability like what a HD600 has, for example.

 

[Timber]

Maybe they are cheap because of the lack of scaling, which indicates they were developed with fixed tuning in mind rather than scalability like what a HD600 has, for example.

I don't know, I'm not an expert, but I don't think it's a cost thing. I think they sort of mimic Japanese headphones at the time and share traits with the Audio-technicas etc. of running well on more portable gear. Certainly the classic Beyers known for the studio have the ability to scale and probably expected to be plugged into high impedance gear and they aren't expensive.

 

[Starvald]

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Ireland is mental at times. Headphones got sent via DPD on Friday, but didn't get anything yesterday. 17:40 this evening. Knock on door. There they are.

After a quick listen, yeah, these are a bit of alright. In my defense, the responsible part of my brain cleared the credit card for my desktop audio upgrade

 

[mrk]

The HE1000se has now had several days of ear time and thoughts against the Arya Stealth are that whilst it's not a night and day difference to the Arya, it's quite clearly more matured and music feels like "yeah this is how music should feel" with the way it soundstages/images intricate details in the performance with everything I've thrown at it.

If the HD600/650/6XX etc are reference headphones for neutral output leaving the amp to do the scaling, then the HE1000se is an iteration of that just with a lot more emphasis on detail from all the way down the low end depths of the freq range that no HD8/6x can reach, the midrange is where the HE excels vs the Arya though, for vocals it makes them tickle your ears when a song comes on that has that almost musky type of voice whether female or male. The high frequencies never feel harsh even on otherwise harsh tracks (80s pop etc), even though it is a bright headphone, it seems to be in total control of the upper end.

At its current price, as an upgrade over Arya, I now think it's justified as a whole package from use of materials down to the sound and included cables etc. I would not call it value for money at its original £3000 or whatever the exact price was back then.

Arya Stealth in its £550 price now is superb value for what you get, though we still have the Fosi i5 to come next month, but all reviews point to it being a competitor to the Ananda not the Arya, so we will see I guess, plus we don't know how scalable the i5 is.

But yeah these look and feel as special as they sound. Susvara build quality without the Susvara oddities like pad shape/thickness and cup comfort, at least on my head anyway as others hate the egg shape. I just don't like pads that touch any part of my ears, or if the inner cup fabric touches my ear because the stock pads are too thin, even though I had HD650s for 10+ years, though Senn pads are velour all the way round vs the tacky feeling Hifiman pad sides.

I do want to hear the Noire XO though as well, the marketing says something pretty bold hence this want:

No Open Headphone Compares

Hmmm.

 

[Angst]

I do want to hear the Noire XO though as well, the marketing says something pretty bold hence this want:



Hmmm.

They tend to go for their own house sound so I guess this would be true if they were referring to the tuning.

 

[mrk]

Hmm could well be, only one way to know though!

 

[Jenz]

 

[mrk]

Looking neat.

 

[Raymond Lin]

They don't come with the window do they? That's just for the show demo.

 

[mrk]

This will, the marketing stock images shown recently have the window too. Only Luxsin had the show window at Munich High End although they are looking at a special edition with a window too.

Edit*

Listen to this song on headphones, it's so good:

And this one has such a deep sub-bass extension that you "feel" in the back of your head.