What is "Fast"?

MOOGLEYS · 25 Oct 2010 at 09:32

I have owned a few "fast" cars but then I got lucky and had a drive of a Veyron. My fast cars all of a sudden felt not so fast and kind of slow.......

Thats my 10 pence worth..

Flukester · 25 Oct 2010 at 09:35

MOOGLEYS said:
I have owned a few "fast" cars but then I got lucky and had a drive of a Veyron. My fast cars all of a sudden felt not so fast and kind of slow.......

Thats my 10 pence worth..

Just make sure the Veyron is in right gear though when doing roll ons with STs :-)

, erm, maybe the only gear that counts is reverse though

Dogbreath · 25 Oct 2010 at 09:39

I don't personally consider 8 seconds as "Fast", but it's all relative to what you are used to. A car capable of 8 second 0-60 time would feel like a rocketship if someone was used to driving a 1.0L Korean trolley, but to someone with used to driving, say, an M3 it would feel sluggish.

Flukester · 25 Oct 2010 at 09:41

Dogbreath said:
I don't personally consider 8 seconds as "Fast", but it's all relative to what you are used to. A car capable of 8 second 0-60 time would feel like a rocketship if someone was used to driving a 1.0L Korean trolley, but to someone with used to driving, say, an M3 it would feel sluggish.

Funny thing is, my daily drive is a rocketship, yet my missus korean 1.0 trolley actually feels quite nippy (though lacks overtaking pull I admit)

Howard · 25 Oct 2010 at 09:44

Flukester said:
Funny thing is, my daily drive is a rocketship, yet my missus korean 1.0 trolley actually feels quite nippy (though lacks overtaking pull I admit)

No it doesn't. I drove a Hyundai i10 recently. It was the worst car I can remember driving in a long, long time. Utterly crap in every respect. And it certainly wasn't nippy

MOOGLEYS · 25 Oct 2010 at 09:45

My old man Vectra Diesel kept up with a Focus ST the other day. The boy racer idiot decided it would be funny to cut me up and cause me to swerve nearly into a curb. Luckily for him i dont speed so at 70 i gave up, unluckily for him is my wife got his registration and reported it to the police who are going to pay him a visit..

Flukester · 25 Oct 2010 at 09:46

Howard said:
No it doesn't. I drove a Hyundai i10 recently. It was the worst car I can remember driving in a long, long time. Utterly crap in every respect. And it certainly wasn't nippy

Feels quite fast round town to me, and like I said, daily drive will hit 100 in 5s so I don't understand

It maybe worst car you have driven but didn't it win what car 2010 best car under 10k ?

, but thats a whole different thread.

Janesy B · 25 Oct 2010 at 09:46

MOOGLEYS said:
My old man Vectra Diesel kept up with a Focus ST the other day. The boy racer idiot decided it would be funny to cut me up and cause me to swerve nearly into a curb. Luckily for him i dont speed so at 70 i gave up, unluckily for him is my wife got his registration and reported it to the police who are going to pay him a visit..

Bet they won't.

Will Gill · 25 Oct 2010 at 09:47

registering the fact I've read this

fun thread, smells like shens to me

MOOGLEYS · 25 Oct 2010 at 09:49

Janesy B said:
Bet they won't.

They will, we are good friends with the local constabulary (In a good way)...

Mr^B · 25 Oct 2010 at 10:39

So, in essence, someone had a race that might not have been a race, with a car with indeterminate power, and was the same speed as it for a bit, and then lost.

A+ would read again.

My car is 0-60 in 6.1 secs (or thereabouts) and I don't consider that particularly fast in a straight line. Cornering is another matter though.

[FnG]magnolia · 25 Oct 2010 at 10:42

Mike's posts : like looking at a car crash. You don't really want to - and you probably shouldn't, it's not decent - but you kind of have to.

All bow before the mighty and unbeatable ... uh, Focus.

Will Gill · 25 Oct 2010 at 10:42

MOOGLEYS said:
They will, we are good friends with the local constabulary (In a good way)...

paying a visit maybe, pressing charges, definitely not

Jasminethecat · 25 Oct 2010 at 10:55

Just been perusing this thread, I am sure I saw an St mentioned against an M3 E46, is this true?

Hi by the way, I am new around these parts.

To answer the OP IMO anything under 5 is fast but I have high standards

MikeHiow · 25 Oct 2010 at 11:02

Janesy B said:
Hardly ripping him to shreds considering I entered the thread one page ago. The story isn't plausible because of the distance of that road and secondly the timings of it. According to Mike H he raced it over a year ago, in his ST. The ST he got in January?

How much confidence have you got in this plagiarised statement of Fox's? I now have a video of that distance of road, up and down. Naturally someone did it for me, anonymously, but what it shows is 115 on the way up with plenty of time to stop, and 100 on the way down and actually stopping dead before half way

[TW]Fox;17644753 said:
If he got a better start why even tell the story? Makes it totally meaningless surely.

Because we're talking split second differences here? If I told you that he was behind me and he couldn't get past you'd still be singing the same bloody song, anyway.

R420LA6X2/4MNA said:
Most except Mike I think.....

Wow, are you people even reading the thread, or are you just jumping on Fox's little bandwagon? Go back and read what I've said again and tell me that I do not understand the M3 is significantly faster.

What you lot fail to understand, even after its explained by several people that have had the sense to be able to come into this thread diplomatically, is that with less than a second difference between 60-100, the slight midrange advantage (low down turbo t0rks?!) that comes into play early on and some variables (the start, gear changes, driver errors etc.), then its completely plausible, so you really have no business telling me its impossible when most of you clearly have no experience in this kind of 'event' (and thus haven't a ****ing clue) given your surprise that 100MPH can be done in half of 0.6 miles, or that I'd even try it on such a short piece of road in the first place (Sure, like I wouldn't know - I haven't done this a million times before since I started driving).

Thanks.

MOOGLEYS · 25 Oct 2010 at 11:03

Will Gill said:
paying a visit maybe, pressing charges, definitely not

I know but its better than nothing. Little git should be shot in my opinion.

[TW]Fox · 25 Oct 2010 at 11:09

I am not surprised that 100mph can be done in 0.6 miles, I am surprised that you can race an M3 until 100mph at which point the m3 leaves you like you are standing still, ie still accelerating hard and now travelling much faster than you, and then shed all the speed for the end of the road all still within this half mile stretch.

MikeHiow · 25 Oct 2010 at 11:19

[TW]Fox;17645307 said:
I am not surprised that 100mph can be done in 0.6 miles, I am surprised that you can race an M3 until 100mph at which point the m3 leaves you like you are standing still, ie still accelerating hard and now travelling much faster than you, and then shed all the speed for the end of the road all still within this half mile stretch.

Well, if (my anonymous helper making the video) can hit 100 and stop before half way, the original incident happened at 90MPH, what are you having trouble comprehending? Aforementioned helper even shows 115 is possible in the opposite direction, up hill, and nice calm, gentle braking to stop for the roundabout. That is in an ST, think how much faster an M3 would be, because they are a lot faster than an ST, right? Then factor in that the run up was done from a standing start, where as the run down was rolling at 40, then consider that going downhill is easier (thus faster) than going up hill.

I'd say Myth confirmed.

Will Gill · 25 Oct 2010 at 11:26

video?

where? did I miss it?

[TW]Fox · 25 Oct 2010 at 11:27

'Someone' went out and videod 'a car' doing 3 figure speeds on a half mile A road to prove the internet wrong?

Do we get to see this video then? Not sure how it proves your neck and neck race happened but it would be good to watch.

0-100-0 within a quarter mile?