What is "Fast"?
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I was pretty much level with a 1998 Porsche 911 C2 the other day from 20 to 80.
If you try and disagree, I'll accuse you of pulling stats off the internet and say that my experience > all.
Mike, its probably best if you stop trying to convince yourself your Focus is a supercar on a near weekly basis, it's getting a bit of a regular thing now. big power Imprezas last week, M3's today, what else does the MikeHiow Focus regularly humble whilst hooning around an island with only one dual carriageway and limited to scope to ever have these fabled races?
Infact hasn't it been traded in? Surely that was about a week or more ago now? Just how long does it take for a dealer to 'prep' a 1.6 Focus for you to buy?
If you try and disagree, I'll accuse you of pulling stats off the internet and say that my experience > all.
Mike, its probably best if you stop trying to convince yourself your Focus is a supercar on a near weekly basis, it's getting a bit of a regular thing now. big power Imprezas last week, M3's today, what else does the MikeHiow Focus regularly humble whilst hooning around an island with only one dual carriageway and limited to scope to ever have these fabled races?
Infact hasn't it been traded in? Surely that was about a week or more ago now? Just how long does it take for a dealer to 'prep' a 1.6 Focus for you to buy?
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Can you read? This is an urban myth.
As PeterNem has said though...I give up, waste of my time talking with you.
There's no way to argue with that kind of logic tbh..
[TW]Fox;17642263 said:I was pretty much level with a 1998 Porsche 911 C2 the other day from 20 to 80.
If you try and disagree, I'll accuse you of pulling stats off the internet and say that my experience > all.
Mike, its probably best if you stop trying to convince yourself your Focus is a supercar on a near weekly basis, it's getting a bit of a regular thing now. big power Imprezas last week, M3's today, what else does the MikeHiow Focus regularly humble whilst hooning around an island with only one dual carriageway and limited to scope to ever have these fabled races?
Infact hasn't it been traded in? Surely that was about a week or more ago now? Just how long does it take for a dealer to 'prep' a 1.6 Focus for you to buy?
Why is it that hard to believe with two cars that are probably a second tops apart on paper? Also, how you can criticise an Impreza feeling slower to me - something completely subjective, I do not know.
I do not claim the Focus to be a supercar, I do think many underestimate them though, especially tuned.
The irony is, most of the people were arguing how the Impreza felt to me based on paper figures, and you're arguing about a 'race' that occurred over the scope of 40 and 90-100MPH with no real figures to go on for my car.
Says who? Two people's dyno figures? LOL.
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I forgot, you didn't say it, so it isn't true.
Once again, you manage to ignore any argument that holds any weight.
Last time we discussed it, it was going to be Saturday. I was busy Saturday, so will likely be collecting it on Monday.
I'm in no rush, so why are you? Probably to use it in some derogative manner on an internet forum, am I right?
Well, why should I believe your word?
Last time we discussed it, it was going to be Saturday. I was busy Saturday, so will likely be collecting it on Monday.
I'm in no rush, so why are you? Probably to use it in some derogative manner on an internet forum, am I right?
Well, why should I believe your word?
Because half the forum was there at the time, I'd imagine.
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Why should I believe yours that has no backing of any form?
Mine has forum backing in the sense they were there, also in the sense they have had cars prove that they don't lose power.
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You're missing the point. Even if his dynoguess power figure at the flywheel was accurate, that is one example of one engine, and still not the engine in question.
It isn't much different to me saying that all cars need their oil topping up every 1000 miles because I once experienced that in one of my cars. Of course, this statement is ridiculous, and would still be ridiculous if the whole forum witnessed it, or if even 1000 other people experienced it. My point is, all engines are different.
You expect us to believe yours.
Well that is a stalemate, then surely? I have no proof, other than common sense that engines (not all!) are capable or even likely to lose power with wear, and neither does InvaderGIR?
What happends to old classics that had minimal bhp to begin with
They end up driving backwards i suppose.
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The only time a car will lose power as I've stated previously is if it isn't looked after and has major engine problems, something such as an e46 m3 will have been looked after and would not have engine problems.
Nah, the engines collapse in on themselves due to negative bhp.
Where did I state the power loss would be linear?
The irony of your above statement with the E46 is that a year later the car suffered HGF between two cylinders, which actually gave little evidence that there was an issue, other than the car feeling 'a bit down on power' and very occasional what felt like 'pinking' as the owner described, to prompt further investigation.
The irony of your above statement with the E46 is that a year later the car suffered HGF between two cylinders, which actually gave little evidence that there was an issue, other than the car feeling 'a bit down on power' and very occasional what felt like 'pinking' as the owner described, to prompt further investigation.
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The only time a car will lose power as I've stated previously is if it isn't looked after and has major engine problems, something such as an e46 m3 will have been looked after and would not have engine problems.
Nah, the engines collapse in on themselves due to negative bhp.
They must take in co2 and turn it into petrol! MikeH just solved climate change!
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And TWO MONTHS after mine was proven to make more than stock it suffered HGF. What is your point?
That M3 is still on the road, and its new owner has no idea there is a problem, but you categorically said above that an E46 will have been looked after (well, actually it had been) and thus will have no engine problems.
Of course, older cars suffering from power loss aren't always down to issues like this. The Corrado VR6s suffered with bore wear, which in turn resulted in power loss. The C20XE in the Calibra and the like had similar issues.
The Rover T16 engines suffered horribly with carbon build up on the valves, which led to a crap seat and a loss of power.
There are may other cars that commonly, and some not so commonly suffer with other issues through wear that can lead to a loss of power, worn rings, blow by, ****ed sensors etc. any number of things that can be attributed to age/mileage/wear can cause power loss as a car ages.
Of course, older cars suffering from power loss aren't always down to issues like this. The Corrado VR6s suffered with bore wear, which in turn resulted in power loss. The C20XE in the Calibra and the like had similar issues.
The Rover T16 engines suffered horribly with carbon build up on the valves, which led to a crap seat and a loss of power.
There are may other cars that commonly, and some not so commonly suffer with other issues through wear that can lead to a loss of power, worn rings, blow by, ****ed sensors etc. any number of things that can be attributed to age/mileage/wear can cause power loss as a car ages.
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