What is it with the south?

jellybeard999 said:
If theres someone sitting in the outside lane doing below the speed limit, on a dual carriageway or motorway with no traffic to their left, is it or is it not legal to pass them on the left ?

I was led to believe this was undertaking and illegal, but scuzi has explained it above differently.
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It is not illegal to pass on the left.

If for what ever reason you are sat in the middle lane for some thing other than overtaking a car in the left hand lane, and you encounter someone who, for some reason, is sat in the outside lane going slower than you, you just drive past them in the lane you are in.
 
atpbx said:
It is not illegal to pass on the left.

If for what ever reason you are sat in the middle lane for some thing other than overtaking a car in the left hand lane, and you encounter someone who, for some reason, is sat in the outside lane going slower than you, you just drive past them in the lane you are in.
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Yeah, I understand it's fine if keeping with the flow, but it's more likely to get you in trouble if you jump from 3rd to 2nd, or 2nd to 1st lane and fly past quickly. Or if you shoot the person in front.
 
It also seems to be the reason why so many motorways and dual carriageways around here are so congested. There's several areas near me where they are big roadworks going on and it gets busy, but Ive been through them and it seems often that the only thing impeding traffic flow is peoples' inability to use lane discipline. Hence my keep left thread a few months ago.
 
Scuzi said:
Because you don't drive a BMW? Although, now that I mention that, Audi seem to be taking over (ho ho) in the fast lane ******** stakes. They're the new BMW.
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It's TDI drivers that are the problem regardless of car make. Mondeo drivers seem to think they're part of the "club" now.

Just because they can cover you in soot doesn't mean they're fast.
 
this really gets my goat too.

See it all the time down here, M1, M25 all the time.

Queues forming in the outside lane with swathes of tarmac in the other two empty. Or people not pulling back across after overtaking. SO ******* ANNOYING.

So now, i undertake. Sue me, but otherwise i'd have to be in that queue which gets pretty dangerous with the brake lights coming on down the row...

I tend to do it mostly in the 1st lane, when they are all in the 3rd lane (nothing in middle lane) so its pretty safe on the whole.
 
The two main roads I drive on are the A10 and A406. The A10 is mostly 2 lane dual carriageway, many people simply drive exclusively in lane 2, despite lane 1 being completely empty, and there will be a large queue of cars in lane 2.

The A406 is mostly 3 lane dual carriageway. People here refuse to drive in lane 1 and will sit in lane 2 and sometimes even lane 3 for their entire journey, despite lane 1 and 2 to their left being completely empty.

I do however take great pleasure in driving in lane 1, approaching a fool driving in lane 2 with no other cars on the road, I then indicate right, from lane 1 to lane 3 in order to pass him, then indicate left and return to lane 1 and about 10% of the time in doing this I see them in my rear view mirror then realise that he is a fool and change to lane 1. Often though, despite my manouver to pass them, they will still remain in lane 2.

This is largely due to the fact that most people driving on the A406 do not have any driving license whatsoever and do not speak any English or have any kind of clue what the different lanes are for.
 
mrk said:
Whoah hold the phone a second there.
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:D I see it so much due to working shifts really ****'s me off moving round everyone as I dont want to get pulled over for a dangerous manouevre again!

If only people in england drove like the french on the motorways!
 
BigglesPiP said:
This ^^^.


I'm not in the wrong lane, I'm simply waiting in line to pass the slow traffic ahead like everyone else.

In the north I almost never see it, but down here loads of people think it's all right to tear up the 2nd lane undertaking everyone and then barging into the 3rd lane when they get to the slow traffic.

It's illegal, and it's not because of the people in the 3rd lane, who are driving legally.
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Indeed. Generally the people who do the undertaking don't actually end up any better off anyway. I certainly ensure they don't get back in in front of me ;)
 
mike5678 said:
I do however take great pleasure in driving in lane 1, approaching a fool driving in lane 2 with no other cars on the road, I then indicate right, from lane 1 to lane 3 in order to pass him, then indicate left and return to lane 1 and about 10% of the time in doing this I see them in my rear view mirror then realise that he is a fool and change to lane 1. Often though, despite my manouver to pass them, they will still remain in lane 2.
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Aaaaah yes, the Honda slalom.
 
DannyDan said:
Indeed. Generally the people who do the undertaking don't actually end up any better off anyway. I certainly ensure they don't get back in in front of me ;)
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most who have an ounce of sense undertake then get back in the outer lane to overtake those in the 2nd lane, almost driving sensibly.

i guess you are one of those people who speed up just to stop someone pulling back in, which is even more dangerous than making someone undertake you in the first place.
 
Mohinder said:
I honestly don't remember the last time I made a journey to work in the morning without getting at least a 5-undertake combo, ie five cars in a row in the outside lane sat dead on 70 while I quite happily trundle past in the inside lane at 80ish. (Which, before anyone moans, is completely legal)
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I doubt undertaking at 80mph will be written in the highway code as legal.
 
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