What LCD HDTVs Satisfy These Needs! Inside.

Mr Latte · 7 Feb 2006 at 20:20

GordyR

No need for Powerstrip

Are you using Nvidia?
All you need to do is select 1080i HDTV.
You will have to use the underscan feature (ATI have it too)

Interlaced wont work over VGA mate

GordyR · 7 Feb 2006 at 20:28

Mr Latte said:
GordyR

No need for Powerstrip

Are you using Nvidia?
All you need to do is select 1080i HDTV.
You will have to use the underscan feature (ATI have it too)

Interlaced wont work over VGA mate

Indeed, I realised that straight away as soon as I opened up the diplay properties. Never needed to use that feature before. Nice.

Anyway, it works and to be honest I am pretty impressed! Text is a little more blurry which is to be expected. There also seems to be a slight shimmering effect that is only visible when moving windows around etc... similar to what you described happening on your Sony. I doubt it is any better than your screen in that regard. Was worth a try though.

Mr Latte · 7 Feb 2006 at 20:47

Glad to here it works.

So if someone was replacing a monitor with one of these lets assume then they could run 1:1 no worries which is nice and also now 1080i.

Why/When 1080i
It would be possible with the larger scaled desktop area with 1080i to perhaps:

Surf/Burn a DVD/Browse a couple of folders and combine this with the HDTVs onboard PIP mode. All within the added screen res obtained with the 1080i mode. Its only a suggestion but what you rekon?

You cant make a TFT scale a larger resolution than its pixel count. Its one advantage with HDTVs.

ANy chance of some photos for examples?

Ben · 7 Feb 2006 at 21:11

gord said:
Aye, i wouldnt go 32" wouldnt fit... too much money...

and yeh, im at a desk so it will be about 2ft away when im writing essays etc.. although i might just get one to replace my normal tv anyway

...hmm id really like to see one running word then...

Just took one of my Sammy 26" (LE26R41B) running OpenOffice with a RTF Document open. (I'm guessing it's the visability of the text etc that you're after).

[img=http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4271/tv0073gk.th.jpg]

(No I'm not in pitch black, I guess the camera is adjusting to the light from the set, so everything else around it is darkened).

GordyR · 7 Feb 2006 at 21:33

Mr Latte said:
Surf/Burn a DVD/Browse a couple of folders and combine this with the HDTVs onboard PIP mode. All within the added screen res obtained with the 1080i mode. Its only a suggestion but what you rekon?

I agree completely. The LG is very usable at 1080i. For those who need the extra resolution it should offer them a good solution.

Mr Latte said:
Any chance of some photos for examples?

Sure although as I have explained before I am using my camera-phone and it is absolutely abysmal at taking pictures of the screen. Any blurriness 'dottiness' or banding artifacts you are seeing are down to the camera-phone and are not there when viewed in person. But anyway, here you go:-

The pictures below are all running in 1920x1080i.

In this last picture the 'dotty' artifacts are very noticable. They are not really there though. Anyway, more pictures to come in my next post...

GordyR · 7 Feb 2006 at 21:34

Again I have to emphasise that it looks infinately better in person. My camera phone seems to go all out of focus and introduces 'dotty' artificats when trying to deal with the glow of the LCD. If I can borrow a real digital camera i'll take some far better pics.

For comparisons sake here are a couple of pics in the screens native resolution of 1366x768:-

Grrr again the stinking artifacts and blurriness. It's really frustrating me because I want to show you just how good it looks but can't. My apologies.

gord · 8 Feb 2006 at 00:00

No problemo mate. Youve done plenty as it is. I dont understand what your all talking about the 1080i stuff... is that just to see how well it scales up to that?

Either way, im feeling quite convinced.. now just to finance it.

GordyR · 8 Feb 2006 at 00:07

gord said:
No problemo mate. Youve done plenty as it is. I dont understand what your all talking about the 1080i stuff... is that just to see how well it scales up to that?

Basically these new HDTV's usually have a native resolution of either 1280x720 or 1366x768. Some of these TV's (such as the LG and the Sony that Mr. Latte has) can also give you a resolution of 1920x1080 by scaling the image, but only while 'interlaced'. The image quality is never going to be as good as when you are running the screen at its native res but nevertheless the option is there and it seems quite usable. (although I personally wouldn't use it permanently)

MrM3 · 8 Feb 2006 at 09:29

GordyR said:
With 1:1 pixel mapping at 1366x768 resolution I have more than enough screen real estate for my needs.

Out of interest does your gfx card do 1366 x 768 or 1360 x 768?

I understand the panel is 1366 by 768.

GordyR · 8 Feb 2006 at 10:48

MrM3 said:
Out of interest does your gfx card do 1366 x 768 or 1360 x 768?

I understand the panel is 1366 by 768.

It does both mate.

You can switch between 1360 and 1366 for PC input on the LG itself. Then you just set your video card to match.

MrM3 · 8 Feb 2006 at 12:01

so the gfx card allow for both resolutions and the screen has options for both these resolutions?

(what gfx card is this? my old ati 9700 only has 1360x768 and the screen misses 3 pixels left and right on the screen... perfect no scaling)

GordyR · 8 Feb 2006 at 12:15

MrM3 said:
so the gfx card allow for both resolutions and the screen has options for both these resolutions?

(what gfx card is this? my old ati 9700 only has 1360x768 and the screen misses 3 pixels left and right on the screen... perfect no scaling)

Its a Nvidia 7800 GTX.

You need to go into the screens menu, then into the XGA menu and change it from 1360x768 to 1366x768 if you deperately want those extra six pixels.

gord · 8 Feb 2006 at 12:53

I have an X800, and im looking around but i cant see any notion of different resolutions it can output...

It can do 1280x768... i imagine it can do the other resolutions too.. but my monitor restricts that in the old desktop settings resolution.

Any ideas?

GordyR · 8 Feb 2006 at 12:56

gord said:
I have an X800, and im looking around but i cant see any notion of different resolutions it can output...

It can do 1280x768... i imagine it can do the other resolutions too.. but my monitor restricts that in the old desktop settings resolution.

Any ideas?

You'll be fine with an X800 matey. It should all work automatically.

Windle · 8 Feb 2006 at 13:54

Gord, just seen some reports of a shimmer during HD viewing through DVI/HDMI? You ever noticed this? Described as a visible flickering on the screen?

GordyR · 8 Feb 2006 at 13:58

Windle said:
Gord, just seen some reports of a shimmer during HD viewing through DVI/HDMI? You ever noticed this? Described as a visible flickering on the screen?

Absolutely not! The only shimmer I have is when I run my PC at 1920x1080i (and move windows around fast) and that is do be expected due to the fact that this resolution is interlaced.

I also have an upscaling HDMI DVD player and it too is perfect.