what options do i have?

[smogsy]

Open to any side here:

Currently my work/gaming rig is working pretty well,
but for some Gaming Titles GPU usage is dropping below 90% (AC odyessy) (RDR2 is a solid 100%) can se this possibly having issues with upcoming multiplayer games like BF2042

just wondering what upgrade path i can look at going in the future?
I would need to still run 4 or more NVME drives & 3090 so, do i still need to look at TR?/Xeon or are there anything come in the pipeline that's semi-workstation based? with Perf/PCI-E with better price ratio

believe 5000s is still 24 lanes?

i don't earn money from this computer its more hobby based work.

Resolution: 4K 120hz

currently have:
2950X @ 4250mhz on all cores
32GB 3333Mhz 13-13-13-33 (TR wont stable over this)
3090 MSI Gaming X (undervolted to 0.850mV running 1920Mhz at 68c)
6x NVME 1TB Drives
1x 250GB NVME

 

[Purgatory]

Open to any side here:

Currently my work/gaming rig is working pretty well,
but for some Gaming Titles GPU usage is dropping below 90% (AC odyessy) (RDR2 is a solid 100%) can se this possibly having issues with upcoming multiplayer games like BF2042

just wondering what upgrade path i can look at going in the future?
I would need to still run 4 or more NVME drives & 3090 so, do i still need to look at TR?/Xeon or are there anything come in the pipeline that's semi-workstation based? with Perf/PCI-E with better price ratio

believe 5000s is still 24 lanes?

i don't earn money from this computer its more hobby based work.

Resolution: 4K 120hz

currently have:
2950X @ 4250mhz on all cores
32GB 3333Mhz 13-13-13-33 (TR wont stable over this)
3090 MSI Gaming X (undervolted to 0.850mV running 1920Mhz at 68c)
6x NVME 1TB Drives
1x 250GB NVME

Ryzen 3000/5000 CPUs will have a total of 24 PCIe Gen4 lanes. Four out of the twenty-four are used for the interconnect to the X570 chipset, leaving 20 lanes Gen 4.0 for other utilization (eg M.2 SSD). 16 lanes (PCIe x16) are intended for graphics cards that are connected as x16 or two at x8.



The X570 chipset gives 16 additional lanes of PCIe Gen 4.0, these can be re-routed and shared. Per motherboard, things are going to be connected differently. PCIe slots, M.2 SSDs, LAN, card readers or WiFi modules are to be connected via the new interface standard. The configuration depends on the respective motherboard.


For example my x570 msi godlike can use 5 x 4.0 M.2 NVME drives, 3 on the board and 2 on the pcie expansion card. There really is a total of 40 PCIE lanes with a 5000 series cpu and x570 motherboard, 4 being used to talk to the x570 chipset so 36 you can use.

What you have said above can easily be done on a x570 setup with a 5000 series cpu. This is why I didn't go threadripper for my setup, which runs 2 x 3090s, 3 nvme drives, 6 sata drives and a pcie sound card too and still have PCIE lanes left over.

Just find a x570 motherboard you like with the layout that works for you and if you don't have enough M.2 slots on one you like, then buy a M.2 PCIE expansion card and add it to the build, you can go crazy with some PCIE expansion M.2 cards and get lots of nvme drives in a build.

My setup is basically a workstation for me to do my work on and of course game on too, you can see here on the 3090 owners thread the build :- https://www.overclockers.co.uk/foru...-owners-thread.18898762/page-48#post-34846430 or https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/posts/34846430/

 

[smogsy]

ah yes forgot they are now GEn4, will need to find a bboard that RAID support PCI-E RAID as will have 2 of these soon.

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[Tetras]

Wouldn't you be better off separating the use case here? If you build something just for gaming all you need to buy is regular consumer stuff, no need to worry about fitting all those drives.

 

[tommoT.Striker]

...What you have said above can easily be done on a x570 setup with a 5000 series cpu. This is why I didn't go threadripper for my setup, which runs 2 x 3090s, 3 nvme drives, 6 sata drives and a pcie sound card too and still have PCIE lanes left over.

Just find a x570 motherboard you like with the layout that works for you and if you don't have enough M.2 slots on one you like, then buy a M.2 PCIE expansion card and add it to the build, you can go crazy with some PCIE expansion M.2 cards and get lots of nvme drives in a build.

My setup is basically a workstation for me to do my work on and of course game on too, you can see here on the 3090 owners thread the build

I'd say you're definitely getting your money's worth from that x570 board. So much in a x570. So I imagine your 3090s are running in PCIE4 x8? Not that it matters for performance. And you can run both 3090s direct into the motherboard and use a riser for the PCIE card? I thought two 3090s would block free slots. Neat. The thing I love about TR is amount of lanes you get you need not worry, but I never planned my build to run say 3 GPUs, and the TR strix's layout means I need to use two risers for two of my GPUs. But it works just fine.

If OP still wants to go TR, makes sense to wait for Zen 3 TR at this point. There still isn't a HEDT replacement for Intel's Cascade Lake CPUs.

 

[smogsy]

Wouldn't you be better off separating the use case here? If you build something just for gaming all you need to buy is regular consumer stuff, no need to worry about fitting all those drives.

my work use case needs a Fast GPU with loads of memory & very fast I/O... so would basically be double the price

 

[Joxeon]

I wouldn't be to concerned with upgrading right now as you will be GPU bound in the marjority of instances even with zen+ cores especially for the newer titles which are graphically more demanding so seems silly to drop a stack of cash on gaining a couple of fps in older games which should already be running comfortably above 60fps @4k

Give it another year or two then take a look at what the next gen DDR5 platforms are offering before commiting to a large overhaul.

 

[Purgatory]

I'd say you're definitely getting your money's worth from that x570 board. So much in a x570. So I imagine your 3090s are running in PCIE4 x8? Not that it matters for performance. And you can run both 3090s direct into the motherboard and use a riser for the PCIE card? I thought two 3090s would block free slots. Neat. The thing I love about TR is amount of lanes you get you need not worry, but I never planned my build to run say 3 GPUs, and the TR strix's layout means I need to use two risers for two of my GPUs. But it works just fine.

If OP still wants to go TR, makes sense to wait for Zen 3 TR at this point. There still isn't a HEDT replacement for Intel's Cascade Lake CPUs.

Yes the 3090s are using x8 x8 at pcie4 basically 16x 16x at 3.0. So no real performance difference. Yes I'm getting good use out of the board and the riser for the sound card I had to mod it to work as it had a pointing up cable and unscrewed it and made the cable come out of the side but the graphics card would still knock into it and stop the card sitting in the slot, so i sanded 2mm off the top of the riser board and it fits perfectly now. All worked out great in the end but had to mod things to work which was easy to do, just time and patience. Had to mod the case trapdoor too so it would take a 140mm fan too, so the bottom card got more air.

In the end very happy with it apart from the cost of the motherboard as they are very rare now and EOL (selling now for £1500-2000 new and used) and only one that allows 2 x 3090 on x570, new asus x570 viii extreme is coming out this month that will also allow 2 x 3090 with 4 slot spacing but again rumours are it will be £1000/$1000.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

5xxx series Threadripper should be incoming soon - I'd wait it out and see what that brings. You'd need a new mobo but should be compatible with existing sTRX4 boards.