Definitely a good thing. Will cut down on light pollution too.
What really annoys me when trying to save power.
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Definitely a good thing. Will cut down on light pollution too.
I find myself wondering this too!
I do try and save energy because I like to and in a sense have to, it does keep the bills down. But as you say what's the point if these people are doing? Well atleast we can find some comfort in ourselves for being a little pro-active in our energy saving ways.
When I visited Germany I noticed a lot of train and metro stations have escalators. They have sensors that turn them off after a certain period of inactivity which I thought was good idea. Germany is one of the countries in Europe taking a more proactive approach though, nearly every glass and plastic bottle has a deposit on it.
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I do this as well. I hate wasting cash almost as much as I hate the Government propoganda adverts. Personal energy useage is just about irrelevant. Typical lack of insight by the Government.
Business and industry is where we need to focus. What's the point in cutting 5 miles off our car journeys when our demand for beef and milk produces more CO2 than all car travel. Same with airtravel. As far as travel goes it's bloody efficient.
However as always it is easier to use the stick on thecommon man rather than go after business or heaven forbid use the carrot like other countries. Look at Scandanavia for example for how to do it right.
As for the OP i agree it's stupid but there will be some need for lights like security but overall it's stupid.
It's because IR cameras are absolute crap and need a bucketload of IR to see anything. (use your camera phone to look at things using the IR output of your TV remote and you'll get the idea
)I would switch the lights off in my house but given the current weather conditions the gas heating for my house is so colossal just to give me 2-3 hours heat it outweighs leaving on the pc overnight or switching off the hallway light. I'm going to resort to just switching it off soon and telling the gas company to go **** themselves. Even now i can see my own breath for around 2 feet as i'm typing this.
I'm tired, miserable and so cold that saving leccy is the least of my worries.
I'm tired, miserable and so cold that saving leccy is the least of my worries.
Cutting 5 miles a week also has other benefits, reduced congestion, noise pollution, pollution in towns and makes you fitter. I was thinking about something similar earlier, if people lived near their work and walked their kids to school or the shops (except for their weekly shopping) the number of car journeys and conjestion would plummit massively.
I do agree however that businesses waste way to much energy, especially lightling.
It's because IR cameras are absolute crap and need a bucketload of IR to see anything. (use your camera phone to look at things using the IR output of your TV remote and you'll get the idea
Thats a rubbish idea. Most digital cameras have IR filters on the front of them and explains why IR light can be very difficult to see with them. A lot of photographers pay quite a bit of money to get IR filters removed from their DSLRs so they can use IR light for example.
i find schools to be pretty bad also.
They all have huge blinds at the windows, and lights on all over the school. What is the point, especially as schools shut before it ever gets dark.
Surely a school of all places should set a good example on the matter.
They all have huge blinds at the windows, and lights on all over the school. What is the point, especially as schools shut before it ever gets dark.
Surely a school of all places should set a good example on the matter.
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Preaching to the converted. I cycle most places including work. I only drive places when cycling isn't an option.
I'd use more public transport but it is horrible and overpriced and doesn't go where I need to go.
Read it again, then try what it says. It's an example of how poor IR cameras are. Point missed?
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It's because IR cameras are absolute crap and need a bucketload of IR to see anything. (use your camera phone to look at things using the IR output of your TV remote and you'll get the idea
Plus IR bulbs/LED's also need to be powered...
I've been brought up to turn lights off and appliances off if you're leaving the room.
Doesn't seem the girls I live with have been. The lights are constantly left on downstairs 24/7. As I go to bed before them I turn them off as I do but come down in the morning and they're back on with everyone still fast asleep. The oven has been left on overnight before. Front door wide open when one of them has gone to the shops, twice.
I then get moaned at for boosting the heating (which accidentally) got left on over night. When I'm sure the last person to leave for X-mas won't have turned the boiler down/off, nor to they turn their radiators off when they leave for the weekend. The fact were single glazed, poorly insulated and have random holes in the walls doesn't help either.
I do my bit but unless I live on my own it seems to make no difference!
Doesn't seem the girls I live with have been. The lights are constantly left on downstairs 24/7. As I go to bed before them I turn them off as I do but come down in the morning and they're back on with everyone still fast asleep. The oven has been left on overnight before. Front door wide open when one of them has gone to the shops, twice.
I then get moaned at for boosting the heating (which accidentally) got left on over night. When I'm sure the last person to leave for X-mas won't have turned the boiler down/off, nor to they turn their radiators off when they leave for the weekend. The fact were single glazed, poorly insulated and have random holes in the walls doesn't help either.
I do my bit but unless I live on my own it seems to make no difference!
Power requirements are predicted in advance and thus only small tweaks are required to match demand. Generators can be asked to increase or reduce output; nothing needs to be 'turned off'hmm ever turned off a nuclear reactor?
i dont want to know how expensive it is to turn it back on
and no it is not wasted power because what is happening during the day? you kinda need all that energy so turning off power plants is useless.
I do not actually know how it works in the UK, but in switzerland the most power comes from the 4 nuclear plants and you won't turn them off otherwise you have a problem
Power requirements are predicted in advance and thus only small tweaks are required to match demand. Generators can be asked to increase or reduce output; nothing needs to be 'turned off'
i was only stating on the fact what i quoted
and he was saying several power stations could be turned off.
yeah its pretty annoying... i do try and make a habbit of saving what power i can. sometimes i manage it sometimes i fail. but leaving lights on in a building thats not in use is the most pointless thing ever.
another thing that ticks me off is when you work for a company that is in high support of this "keep it green/save the planet" etc etc... then you see your boss turn up to work in a huge gas guzzling 4x4... great way to set an example!
another thing that ticks me off is when you work for a company that is in high support of this "keep it green/save the planet" etc etc... then you see your boss turn up to work in a huge gas guzzling 4x4... great way to set an example!