What should I do?

Soldato
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Hi all,

As some of you are aware, I have recently started out offering PC repairs in my local area.

Now as part of this I wanted some business cards made, so I contacted a company, they said to send them through a design and the price that it would cost (at this stage no mention of if this was VAT inclusive or exclusive was made, so I assumed it was a fully inclusive price).

So after sending them the front of the design they request a design for the back of which I sent.

Then I hear nothing for 5 days (3 working) no conformation email or bill to be seen.

Then I receive a Paypal invoice for the work that I was not even aware they were going to complete being as though id received no correspondence prior to the Paypal bill. This bill was also 15% more than I was quoted, obviously VAT, I felt deceived and annoyed as this wouldn't have made them the cheapest option if this was clear from the start.

So I decline the invoice assuming an error had occurred (I hadn't spotted the value of the extra money being 15% yet).

I was then informed that it was VAT, they then got quite funny telling me that I couldn't avoid paying VAT on something. I obviously had assumed that this was considered in the original price.

So I sent an email to cancel the order.

I then receive an email back after a few days, this time telling me that the goods have already been printed and that I cannot cancel the order and must pay them immediately.

A few emails later an they have said they will charge me the orignal price, but I have already ordered from elsewhere because of their overcharge and the fact that I wasn't even aware they had accepted the job and were going to print it.

As far as I'm aware I never confirmed any order in the first place and under the DSR a contract is only entered into upon payment.

I basically feel robbed here as I don't think I have even entered into any kind of agreement with them.

Ive just told them I'm not paying for something I haven't ordered and they are threatening legal action over £25. As well as to increase the bill for every day the balance goes unpaid.

What would you do?
 
Ive sent an email to say ill pay anyway, will make my life easier even though I know I was in the right.

Conversation was done over email, and there was no invoice at all just "there's the price send us your designs and we will start to process", by which I thought they ment put me on the system and we will invoice you then create the goods.

Anyways like I said ill just have more cards than required for now.
 
Its a little worrying you not knowing that businesses always deal without the VAT on quotes/estimates.

I have spoken to quite a few people about this and every one of them has said that although a quote is more than often excluding VAT they normally make this clear in the quote to begin with.

Why is it "worrying" to you?

One thing that has struck me about this thread is that it has weeded out the genuinely helpful posters from the troll's of the forum and people that post just to create disputes and arguments.

Thanks for the decent advice goes to, unkownsock and TheBigCheese. Ill have a look into the FSB.
 
You must remember that everyone has to learn from somewhere. I love how I have "an ignorance to how business works", like I should have picked this up in everyday life as a student. Not just a lack of experience, as some in this thread seem to recognise. As well as the fact that I am hardly to blame for the situation despite me making a few mistakes to exacerbate it, which I now recognise and will not repeat.
 
I'd pay them if I were you, all prices are quoted ex-VAT, no offence but this is your lack of experience which has caused the problem.

Don't want to annoy you, that's just the way I think it should be.

As already posted I have paid for the cards, but I still think that although a quote is provided ex vat it should state that and not be assumed.

Live and Learn I guess.
 
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