what temp will kill my e6300?

jaffacakes · 21 Jan 2007 at 19:09

i'm using an acf7pro on my e6300, i've managed to get it down from 55c idle to 45c idle (38 if i take the side off the case) and room temperature is about 10c lol

my question is, how high would be 'dangerously high'?
i'm using Intel Thermal Analysis Tool, she jumps to 57c when i click 'start' with 100% workload, and sits at 47c/47c idle, but in the bios it says 27, is Intel TAT accurate?

mk17 · 21 Jan 2007 at 19:23

TAT should post central cpu temps (or thereabouts). What kind of o/c are you running?

Dmack · 21 Jan 2007 at 19:24

yeh i'm wondering this also idle i am 41/30, at stress it's like 45/(49/50)... but when i game it stays near idle.

killer_uk · 21 Jan 2007 at 19:24

I think keeping it under 60c full load is the general rule. I would wait for someone who knows for sure though

EDIT: Yes, TAT should be the most reliable temp reading.

jaffacakes · 21 Jan 2007 at 19:44

i'm only overclocked to 2.0G (from 1.8) i've replaced the stock cooler with an arctic freezer 7 pro and scraped off the default thermal gunk and replaced it with AK-450 silver based paste (and loads of it) and i'm not getting the temps i'd like. (she's at 44c right now)

mk17 · 21 Jan 2007 at 20:00

jaffacakes said:
...scraped off...

Did you clean off completely? Nail varnish remover will do the job, but there are some Artic products available for the same thing.

Dmack · 21 Jan 2007 at 20:18

or that i****** alcohol

drunkenmonkey · 21 Jan 2007 at 21:19

jaffacakes said:
i'm only overclocked to 2.0G (from 1.8) i've replaced the stock cooler with an arctic freezer 7 pro and scraped off the default thermal gunk and replaced it with AK-450 silver based paste (and loads of it) and i'm not getting the temps i'd like. (she's at 44c right now)

your only supposed to apply a thin film of thermal paste just banging loads on has the opposite effect

Appzman · 21 Jan 2007 at 21:52

Under 60 degrees when hitting full load on TAT is acceptable. TAT puts your cpu under a much higher load than you will use in day to day computing.

Ensure that the bottom of your Freezer 7 is completely clean as is the top of your cpu, then apply a tiny amount in a line down the centre of the cpu then twist the freezer 7 ever so sligtly either way as you assemble it.

(see HERE for how to apply AS5 correctly to a Dual Core processor)

jaffacakes · 21 Jan 2007 at 22:37

twist? there ain't much room for that, the hiper type r II power supply's modular thingy is a beast and most of the sockets press against the cooler, there's hardly any room in my box for maneouvre and it's a full ATX case, i didn't stick LOADS on, two garden pea sized blobs spread out with a skin packet

Cob · 21 Jan 2007 at 22:46

That's probably still too much. Follow the guide lined above to get the best results. You don't have to twist it much, just a few mm each way.

hardc0re_tid · 22 Jan 2007 at 09:32

Dmack said:
yeh i'm wondering this also idle i am 41/30, at stress it's like 45/(49/50)... but when i game it stays near idle.

probably because your playing a game that doesnt support dual core, therefore when gaming, the game is being processed by both cores resulting in 50% of each core being used, essentially only one core.

when the game is running, do CTRL, ALT, DEL and go to processes, find the game you are playing, right click > affitnity, and set the affinity to 1 core. you should see a difference in load temps now with one core being a fair higher than the other

FrenchTart · 22 Jan 2007 at 10:36

jaffacakes said:
two garden pea sized blobs spread out with a skin packet

You should really be using something that's more like the size of 1.5-2 rice grains.

Big.Wayne · 22 Jan 2007 at 10:40

jaffacakes said:
i'm using an acf7pro on my e6300, i've managed to get it down from 55c idle to 45c idle (38 if i take the side off the case) and room temperature is about 10c lol

You need a better cooler!

Aekeron said:
You should really be using something that's more like the size of 1.5-2 rice grains.

Would that be a piece of basmati rice or american long grain?

Alf4 · 22 Jan 2007 at 11:07

I can highly recommend this to clean up your heatsinks and CPUS:Linky

I used a very small amount of termal paste (half the size of a grain of rice) and spread this across the Heatsink using an old credit card to give me a thin covering.

My temps for the E6300 are: 45Cidle/55C load with a 1/2C variant.

Although my 8800 GTS heats up my case (and thats with x6 case fans! 2 in the front (suck-in), 2 out the back(blow-out), one in the side(suck-in) and one i the top(blow-out) Its the Suck, Blow, Suck, Blow configuration

). I noted the nvidia driver always resets to running the GPU fan at 59%

set this to about 75% or over and the GPU temps drop along with my CPU temps!!

Alf

stickroad · 22 Jan 2007 at 11:34

mk17 said:
Did you clean off completely? Nail varnish remover will do the job, but there are some Artic products available for the same thing.

DONT USE NAIL VARNISH, it is stated in the Artic Silver 5 how to apply the paste and it states very clearly that you shpuldent use nail varnish.

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Removal from Hardware
Arctic Silver thermal compound can easily be removed from hardware using the proper cleaners and tools: For general clean up, a cloth or paper towel will work well. Intricate cleaning can be accomplished with Q-tip swabs. An old toothbrush can often get the compound out of crevices that other tools cannot reach.
CPU Core: For optimum cleaning use ArctiClean 1 and 2. For adequate cleaning use high-purity isopropyl alcohol or acetone and a bit of careful rubbing. Do not use nail polish remover as it contains fragrance oils and other contaminants. (If you use acetone, do a final cleaning with high-purity isopropyl alcohol.)

FrenchTart · 22 Jan 2007 at 11:37

These temps all seem very high. I'm using the scythe ninja revB and at detault vcore/speed on my 6400 I see temps more along the lines of 27C at idle... Since increasing vcore/ocing it's a different ballgame but I'm quite surprised to see ppl getting above 40C at idle

Big.Wayne · 22 Jan 2007 at 11:40

Aekeron said:
I'm using the scythe ninja revB and at detault vcore/speed on my 6400 I see temps more along the lines of 27C at idle...

Aekeron, as a general rule of thumb, always quote idle + loads temps, not just idle alone! i.e 27°C/41°C

FrenchTart · 22 Jan 2007 at 12:21

I'm aware of that.

However, I'm not talking about "OMG! I got 10ghz and it's only 1C" without mentioning that it's the idle temp.

I think there's something quite obviously wrong if people are getting this high an idle temp. Whether or not it's the retail hsf or badly applied thermal paste or whatever is the question.

Rob43 · 22 Jan 2007 at 14:26

Big.Wayne said:
Would that be a piece of basmati rice or american long grain?

LOL !!

Maybe the shorter basmati

Nice one mate. Great answer