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Varsh said:
Considering that in games I play at that resolution on my 4K screen it's a resounding yes. Sure the quality isn't as good as it is native, that's a given, but it's a hell of a lot better than 1080P despite the half scaling.

It's your money at the end of the day so I won't tell you what to do with it, I'm just simply giving an opinion to a question you've asked, doesn't mean you have to go with it. If it throws in another option then I've done what I've set out to do, it's up to you whether you want to take it as an option or not, no need to be so defensive about it.
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Sorry, didn't mean to come across as defensive.
I just don't like how it looks when you set a lower resolution, especially with text.
 
Sell a 980+4k monitor buy a swift and plug the lot into that.

Wait for freesync/dp 1.3 faster dual nvidia/amd gpus before going back to 4k.

Support dwindles above 2x gpus, 2 is bad enough at times.
 
100% save your dosh, wait for a new titan/990 or 390. all talk says within 3 months or so.

or pick the cheapest option to satisfy your need to do something till then.
 
You are going to have to compromise.

I would,

Keep using 4K
Reasons, you have already got it.

Keep the 980s
Reasons, you have already got them, DX12 on the horizon.

Sell the 290Ps
Reasons, get some money for them now as value will drop (only 4gb), you only have 2, not quite as good as 290X or 980 for 4K.

Use money from above for waterblocks on 980s.



Other things to consider.

4gb is definitely not enough when using 4 cards but you are using 3.

With 3 cards you will have to compromise on the settings as they don't have enough grunt to use above 4gb most of the time anyway (swings and round abouts).

Poor scaling on the 9 series cards @4K, this is true but they start with slightly higher performance than the 290s so by the time you get to 3 cards of each performance from either camp is going to be very close and not worth worrying about.

If buying from new I would recommend three 8gb 290Xs and waterblocks as this is the cheapest option, you already have the 980s so this is not a factor.

If you do get the urge to try one of the swift monitors the 980s are still the best option due to their better performance at lower resolutions.
 
If the 980's don't cut it for you at 4k and the 290's flicker in some games at 4k i think i'd go with option 3 rather than throw more money at the problem and possibly still not be happy.

Better to spend money on a couple of cards that are more capable next year and just enjoy some gaming for a while on the swift. Plus you will get more for your spare cards now than you will when the next lot of newer cards come out.
 
ok maybe I have misunderstood, but if you are having heat problems with 3 980's but are considering 3 8GB 290x's that you will space out more to hopefully sort out heat issues. well if this is the case just space out the 980s as you would the 290x's and use different SLI bridges. problem solved and it will only cost you the price of a couple of different length SLI bridges. :)
 
bru said:
ok maybe I have misunderstood, but if you are having heat problems with 3 980's but are considering 3 8GB 290x's that you will space out more to hopefully sort out heat issues. well if this is the case just space out the 980s as you would the 290x's and use different SLI bridges. problem solved and it will only cost you the price of a couple of different length SLI bridges. :)
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+1

Is it possible to raise the thermal limit at which the cards throttle like you can on the 7 series.
 
A quick look on auction sites show genuine ASUS 120mm bridges from just under £3, with a 5x multipack for under £8.
 
Kaapstad said:
You are going to have to compromise.

I would,

Keep using 4K
Reasons, you have already got it.

Keep the 980s
Reasons, you have already got them, DX12 on the horizon.

Sell the 290Ps
Reasons, get some money for them now as value will drop (only 4gb), you only have 2, not quite as good as 290X or 980 for 4K.

Use money from above for waterblocks on 980s.



Other things to consider.

4gb is definitely not enough when using 4 cards but you are using 3.

With 3 cards you will have to compromise on the settings as they don't have enough grunt to use above 4gb most of the time anyway (swings and round abouts).

Poor scaling on the 9 series cards @4K, this is true but they start with slightly higher performance than the 290s so by the time you get to 3 cards of each performance from either camp is going to be very close and not worth worrying about.

If buying from new I would recommend three 8gb 290Xs and waterblocks as this is the cheapest option, you already have the 980s so this is not a factor.

If you do get the urge to try one of the swift monitors the 980s are still the best option due to their better performance at lower resolutions.
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If I sell the 290s, what does my 2nd rig use for graphics cards?

Also, based on this 3 cards won't be good enough for 4K anyway, so there's no point sticking with 4K as I'm not going to get 4 cards. So that leaves the Swift as the only option.
Currently the games I play are running 4K @ 60Hz on 1 x 290, but...

I'm also now not sure about the extra spacing option as it puts the bottom card right at the bottom and overhangs all the USB and case PWR/reset/LED connections. I can see how Kaap can do it with watercooling, not sure how AMDMatt has though.
 
If BF4 @200% is anything to go by, three cards are good to go at 4K. With 4GB, anything higher than 2xAA is a no go on certain maps. With 8GB though, no probs I'd imagine.
But that's just BF4 at fake res :)

Matt manages by having good airflow via powerful intake fans and good mobo spacing.
 
Uncle Petey said:
If BF4 @200% is anything to go by, three cards are good to go at 4K. With 4GB, anything higher than 2xAA is a no go on certain maps. With 8GB though, no probs I'd imagine.
But that's just BF4 at fake res :)

Matt manages by having good airflow via powerful intake fans and good mobo spacing.
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Matt has the same motherboard as me and with 4 cards there is no spacing!
 
Uncle Petey said:
I thought you were talking about using three cards?

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=27085832&postcount=3103

Obviously, 4 cards are going to be crammed up against each other, which means ref coolers, ear muffs and a prayer, or watercooling.
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Sorry, yeah 3 cards, but I don't see what spacing has to do with the connectors at the bottom, which is what I meant with Matt in that with 4 cards he has a card in the bottom slot and with 3 cards using the spacing Matt did in that picture he also has a card in the bottom slot.
So since we have the same motherboard I'm not sure how Matt gets around having a card in the bottom slot and connecting all the connectors.
 
Oh right. There's probably a good chance that he's using the onboard mobo power/reset buttons, but you'd have to ask him :)

Failing that, I did have a similar issue with another board and I solved it by trimming down the plastic on the connectors.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Sorry, yeah 3 cards, but I don't see what spacing has to do with the connectors at the bottom, which is what I meant with Matt in that with 4 cards he has a card in the bottom slot and with 3 cards using the spacing Matt did in that picture he also has a card in the bottom slot.
So since we have the same motherboard I'm not sure how Matt gets around having a card in the bottom slot and connecting all the connectors.
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You get the same problem with air or water and for most people you don't need all those connections. The only ones you need are the on/off and reset ones which you can just about squeeze in there.

As to your other problem if you want to keep both PCs get waterblocks for your 980s you will need all three whether you use 4K or the swift as the workload will be about the same only the refresh rate will change.
 
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