Good job that you can visist almost any country in the world on a British passport
Not to mention Schengen states have no internal borders anyway.
What were the advantages in being in the EU?
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Good job that you can visist almost any country in the world on a British passport
Not to mention Schengen states have no internal borders anyway.
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I "get" where most of the anger is coming from. I think we all need to calm down and stick together. Even though we will be leaving the EU, we will all be in this together, if everyone decides they want to stay here.
The reason we are in this together is because we could be facing an awful government for the next 4 years, so yes, the poor will probably be hit harder than ever, they will take the brunt of the "blame", and if you can't understand their plight but wish them to understand yours then we'll be one of the worst countries on the planet.
Stick together and show the Great British resilience, just like our football team, who depend heavily on spirit, and pride.
The reason we are in this together is because we could be facing an awful government for the next 4 years, so yes, the poor will probably be hit harder than ever, they will take the brunt of the "blame", and if you can't understand their plight but wish them to understand yours then we'll be one of the worst countries on the planet.
Stick together and show the Great British resilience, just like our football team, who depend heavily on spirit, and pride.
Uk citizen living in Sweden
Will need new passport (Soon) NOT more of a ballache though and prolly a few 1000 SEK down the pan for "nothing"
Completely unsure how Tax on UK earnings and pensions will work out in the future.
Completely unsure How residence and employment rights will work out in the future.
We used to take 2 City break trips in Europe every year, This year we planned Paris and Amsterdam. Wont POTENTIALLY be as easy as buy tickets,book hotel and go.
Potentially be paying Import Tax on goods i buy from UK. I still buy a lot form EBAY UK and UK Clothes retailers.
MOST of the IMPORTANT +above is probably moot I have very recently been granted permanent living rights in Sweden. I am unsure 100% if this will cover the right to Work in the future - although it would be crazy not to.
I doubt very much this can be revoked as Sweden isn't know for being ******** but ... Its an unknown.
I am so freaking glad i got it before this EU vote nonsense.
I doubt it will be super easy to do what i have done should things pan out badly in the future. Without the closeness to the Eu though my life would have worked out completely different, the relative ease in which i could move here and attempt to build a new life was nothing but a couple of mandatory forms and an ID card.
When i first came here to visit see if i could tolerate the weather etc i became very ill and was admitted to hospital with a very severe inner ear infection.
My EHIC card covered the cost thank god but it was initially several thousand pounds, which would have pretty much annihilated my security buffer money i had saved for the future and maybe changed my chances of wanting to live here.
Whether or not the UK will be able to renegotiate these deals we shall see. Im sure a lot of them are trivial in the big scheme of things but right now... Its really quite unnerving for me.
If all else fails ill propose to the GF and look for Swedish citizenship in a few years time when i am properly eligible.
Will need new passport (Soon) NOT more of a ballache though and prolly a few 1000 SEK down the pan for "nothing"
Completely unsure how Tax on UK earnings and pensions will work out in the future.
Completely unsure How residence and employment rights will work out in the future.
We used to take 2 City break trips in Europe every year, This year we planned Paris and Amsterdam. Wont POTENTIALLY be as easy as buy tickets,book hotel and go.
Potentially be paying Import Tax on goods i buy from UK. I still buy a lot form EBAY UK and UK Clothes retailers.
MOST of the IMPORTANT +above is probably moot I have very recently been granted permanent living rights in Sweden. I am unsure 100% if this will cover the right to Work in the future - although it would be crazy not to.
I doubt very much this can be revoked as Sweden isn't know for being ******** but ... Its an unknown.
I am so freaking glad i got it before this EU vote nonsense.
I doubt it will be super easy to do what i have done should things pan out badly in the future. Without the closeness to the Eu though my life would have worked out completely different, the relative ease in which i could move here and attempt to build a new life was nothing but a couple of mandatory forms and an ID card.
When i first came here to visit see if i could tolerate the weather etc i became very ill and was admitted to hospital with a very severe inner ear infection.
My EHIC card covered the cost thank god but it was initially several thousand pounds, which would have pretty much annihilated my security buffer money i had saved for the future and maybe changed my chances of wanting to live here.
Whether or not the UK will be able to renegotiate these deals we shall see. Im sure a lot of them are trivial in the big scheme of things but right now... Its really quite unnerving for me.
If all else fails ill propose to the GF and look for Swedish citizenship in a few years time when i am properly eligible.
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and likewise remain posters talking about their passports being worthless are making equally clueless comments...
point is it adds nothing to the discussion to throw in a random dig at leave posters/remain posters based on nothing in particular
Massively. In all honesty I could well be out of pocket six figures a year, and not just when the break kicks in but instead this will likely impact me immediately.
My company operates in an industry that focuses on and supports financial services. The likelihood is that appetite for recruitment will drop to zero by the end of the summer and will see our revenues completely dry up if we don't react adequately.
It's a shame really as my firm contributes directly and indirectly to the exchequer - the candidates we place (many coming across from EU countries) pay hundreds of thousands of pounds in income tax every year, as well as the income, corporations and VAT amounts that we pay as a firm and individuals.
It's a shame but it's just one of those things. One option for me is to relocate for work - New York, Chicago, Vancouver and even Dublin are options for me. Our option if we stay in London is to restructure how we work and focus on the US markets instead, perhaps working hours closer linked to US market hours.
Aside from work, we've got a pretty hefty mortgage which will likely rise whereas the value of our property will likely decrease over time. We've got savings and are nimble enough to weather these storms, but it's not ideal. The introduction of Crossrail, the lack of housing supply and the likely inaction of the building firms could well temper any drop in our house cost.
It's all a real big kick in the teeth, but it is what it is. I've done well in poor markets before so I'll happily have another crack at it.
Technology companies are going to leave the UK, they rely heavily on foreign workers as well as local. Banks are going to depart most likely for Berlin.
Our global and EU trade agreements will become invalid. It will take approx 10 years to regain the majority back again, should anyone wish to actually create anything favourable with us.
We have little to no industry other than banking, science and technology. They prop up our economy, these are going to suffer heavily and our economy will take a nose dive.
Unfortunately this means the poor will be picking up cost of this, if you thought austerity was bad you haven't seen anything yet.
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Yep - this. I find it strange that a lot of people are in denial about the likelihoods and the potential lost of local EU investment. One thing though, I doubt the banks would go to Berlin - Germany's financial centre is Frankfurt. My gut feeling is that Dublin is the most likely destination given the language, attractive tax levels, time difference between the US, EMEA and APAC, as well as its proximity to London.
Considering the EU told Switzerland to f off after their referendum and that they won't negotiate without free movement, it's baffling to see people still insisting that somehow UK will get a better deal, when they're members of the EU and for which leaving has even more serious political ramifications (and not only).
Banks will need to go somewhere with very strong internet backbone. Dublin is good (Betfair, Amazon etc...). But they will migrate to an already strong powerhouse of finance.
So maybe Frankfurt, but I think mainland Europe for sure.
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I see. I can't pretend to understand your business, but you will be poor in a sense too(in your standard of living). I think what your post has shown me is you've got fire in your belly for this country, and are willing to stick it out, while it gets sorted out.
Don't think the UK will be worse off than the rest of Europe, or even the US overall on average. This decision has affected globalism and once we get over what will be a rocky 4 years(in my opinion) we'll start to rise again, and we'll rise together higher than ever.
Once we have a properly elected government, and have properly cut ties with the EU(which will plummet, while we're in it), I just can't see anything but joy.
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In response to thread title: we could influence the laws we were told to follow rather than just follow them which is now going to be the case.
That's some impressively naive optimism considering there's currently no plan, no leadership and nobody even telling us what happens next (other than the people who warned us what would happen).
You have a very weird twisted sense of nationalism in you. You seem to have come at this like a football supporter and a team. And for you it was UK footie team vs an EU footie team no matter what the cost.
Now you feel you can roar off into the sunset screaming Royal Britannia and we will once again rule the waves.
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What law specific to you?
Two things:
1) I'd rather not have to go through all those things, it's a massive pain in the arse and I'm relatively comfortable just now.
2) I have no faith the country has voted for the best option. So not only have I got to reshape my business from scratch, but I've got to do it as a result of a decision I think is sociopolitically flawed.
I'm trying to get through on gallows humour at the moment, but having canvassed my clients, we're in for a really really tough ride with no guarantee of being better off than we were initially. Job losses, austerity, loss of international investment, lack of vital EU infrastructure investment for the regions, etc. all in the hope things might get better. They may, but the risk is so severe and it's not totally reliant on us in the UK - there's a huge impact on is by international bodies, many who don't have our best interests at heart.
I wish you luck and hope that not too many people will be losing the livelihoods through no fault of your own.
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Honestly, the best economical outcome right now is back to what we were last week.
Then what is the point of all this? Is giving the big man the finger really worth people's livelihood over? That's what I don't get.
Then what is the point of all this? Is giving the big man the finger really worth people's livelihood over? That's what I don't get.
