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What would be a cheap and noticeable upgrade from 4670k

caliberlife

caliberlife

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Hi I game on a 4K tv with a 5700xt and a 4670k.

Now if I don’t really need to upgrade I won’t.

What would be the cheapest cpu and motherboard you would recommend but only if it’s noticeable improvement considerably.

Note- I don’t see any issues atm really.
 
9700K
16GB C14 PC3200 Ram
Asus / Gigabyte motherboard
Samsung Evo Plus 970 SSD


Not cheap, but will last you years.
 
R5 3600 with a B450 board. Should give you a friendly kick, won't do massive amounts at the very top end but should certainly increase minimums.
 
If you're not seeing any issues then why spend money. There's always a new shiny thing, so beware of buyer's remorse.

If you do want to spend, budget is pretty key here. I had a forced move from a 4790K (constant cold boot issues) and I think got an pretty optimal bang for buck upgrade with an R5 3600 as mentioned above. Thread is here, but in essence £650 with graphics card transferred over from old system. That could have been down to ~£400 if I'd also re-used case, PSU and storage. New system is noticeably quicker at things like media encoding and feels better in games, although not sure by how much. Development is fairly similar, but that was never a big problem on the old system anyway - the fundamentally slow component there is the one between the keyboard and the chair. To be fair though, some of my gain is probably a clean windows install: the old one went Windows 7 --> 8 --> 10 and likely full of cruft.
 
4790k can be had for as little as £100 on eBay and Facebook Marketplace / groups. Up to you whether that performance boost is enough vs the larger boost from spending £350+ on a processor / board / RAM.
 
I have to say I definitely think it's a false economy investing in deprecated technology. Unless it's for something like a spare machine you just want something cheap.
 
I concur, 3600 with a half decent board.

I have gone 4790k to 3700x with a stop gap 2600 for 5 months in the middle and the difference is very marked, I know others mention intel but for me at the moment AMD is king for price and upgradeability for the future and performance is great which ever way you jump.
 
caliberlife said:
Hi I game on a 4K tv with a 5700xt and a 4670k.

Now if I don’t really need to upgrade I won’t.

What would be the cheapest cpu and motherboard you would recommend but only if it’s noticeable improvement considerably.

Note- I don’t see any issues atm really.
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I say if u don’t see any issues atm why upgrade to a cheap cpu and motherboard ?

buying a old intel cpu on a old platform you might have to upgrade again because whilst today it might have more power we really don’t know what’s gonna happen with CPU’s

ryzen 3600 seems like the best cpu for a lower price atm but here lies the problem we don’t know intels next move or amd’s

2020 with new consoles intel new 10 series cpu maybe moving up cores as well we can’t really predict what gaming will be like on pc after the new consoles comes out even when the PS4 and Xbox one come out system specs went up but look at leaks and official reveals about consoles another big jump will come

but honestly if you are not having any issues with your cpu and gcard combo I would save money and buy a bigger upgrade when you need to not like the 3600 or even 3700/3800 are going anywhere anytime soon and with intel coming out in next 4 months maybe they might acctully do a amd and drop prices of there cpu to be better value (come on stranger things have happened)
 
MaXxBoulton said:
Nope used 4790k's go for more than a 2600x
Selling.his build and going 2600x/3600 would be the way to go.
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4770k are 100-120, 4790k 140-180.
The fundamental that everyone has ignored in this thread is that in the op' he says he is gaming at 4k using an Rx5700XT and wants to know of a cheap and noticeable improvement.
So there will be minimal improvement from his intel system to an Amd at that resolution with that gpu. The problem will be the 4 threads saturating in games that are multi-threaded and demanding.

It's still a viable option and cheaper to sell his 4670 and put it towards a 4770k or 4790k, than to buy a whole ryzen system. No point buying a 2000 ryzen should just go straight to 3000 series. However I agree he can also sell up the intel system and put it towards a newer Intel or Amd system.

Copied from my last post like this.
my observation of quite a few threads, titled '' i5 2500k/3570k/3770k/4670k/4770k should I upgrade?'' and when DDr4 prices were outrageous, I always advised that if you are on an I5 and have 16gb of system memory, then sell the I5 and upgrade to the I7 it will transform the system for a minimal cost. Then wait it out until Ryzen is good enough and Dddr4 prices are realistic, and if you are on an I7 just clock it and keep it running until you feel it's holding you back.
Well that moment is right now, DDr4 is cheap enough (especially E die), with rumours of price increasing back to ''.... off stupid'', and Ryzen 3000 is good enough to actually consider now. Whether you choose Intel or wait for the next gen of Intel is another debate
 
Upgrade to new ryzen or intel. I went from 4670k to ryzen 3700x and the improvement was worth it but it depends if you are bottle necked yet.
 
Swapping that Haswell i5 for an i7 is not going to gain you much and if you upgrade with anything like an RTX 2060 or higher you're going to end up with the same problem.

Its time to bite the bullet and upgrade the platform.

The cheapest way to do that and get great long lasting performance is with a Ryzen 3000 series.

Ryzen R5 3600 £200 https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-3b9-am.html

MSI Tomahawk MAX (out of the box Ryzen 3000 compatible) £107 https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-socket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-33t-ms.html

16GB HyperX 3333MT/s CL16 DDR4 £80 https://www.overclockers.co.uk/king...l-channel-kit-hx433c16pb3k2-16-my-26n-ks.html

£387 total.
 
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Here's the future problem, this is a game unusually demanding on the CPU because of all the Physics and drawcalls in it but more games are getting like this.

This with a 1070 on a 4.6Ghz 4690K, look at the load on its miserable 4 threads and the frame rates (33) as a result.

The second one is with the Ryzen 1600, 3 times as many threads and each one with a higher IPC, result is vastly higher FPS (85), the 3600 is even faster still.

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