What would you do if you found a thief in your house?

Kill. Dispose of body.

The only mistake Tony Martin made was to aim too low and then report the attempted break in.
 
vonhelmet said:
The common sense side of it is that if the law permitted you to leather anyone in your home, then you would have a cast iron defence for any violent offence against anyone if you could just persuade them into your home first.
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Hence me saying it should be based on common sense.

If common sense tells you someones broke in and is burgling your property you could. If its your mate who happens to have peed you off then no of course not.
 
dmpoole said:
Burglars are not afraid of dogs being in the house -FACT.
I worked in a Juvenile Prison and none of them were deterred by a dog in the house.

Also we need to ask the OCUK Coppers this one -
Isn't it also a fact that every day burglars do get assaulted by homeowners but 99.999999% of them just say 'Fair cop guv'?
I was told this by my 3 Copper mates.
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Maybe not but they would still die all the same when attacked by a 100kg mastiff. :D
 
if he was runt of a chav i think would have to psychologically torture him. for example when he said ''dont hit me mate'' i would lunge towards him a few times with the burglar stick , then once hes sat waiting for the police to come i would be ringing mates and making conversation about the best ways to make someone disappear

realistically i would probably go sprinting downstairs and end up doing something stupid like slipping or having the door bounce back in my face
 
Strife212 said:
I'm going to have to say that's blatantly not true.

States with a Stand-your-ground Law

No duty to retreat, regardless of where attack takes place.

* Alabama
* Arizona
* Florida
* Georgia
* Indiana
* Kentucky
* Louisiana
* Montana
* Nevada
* Oklahoma
* South Carolina
* Tennessee
* Texas
* Utah
* Washington

In addition to providing a valid defense in criminal law, many versions of the Castle Doctrine, particularly those with a "Stand-Your-Ground clause", also have a clause which provides immunity from any lawsuit filed on behalf of the assailant for damages/injury resulting from the use of lethal force.

That's not even in your own home - these are states where it's legal to attack someone in the streets, and continue to attack them until they are no longer a threat!
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Note that I said "many", not "all".

Those are not all of the states in the USA.

Nearly all states, even those states with a "stand your ground" version of the castle doctrine, make a legal distinction between your own home and elsewhere for the purposes of using force in defence.

You can use reasonable force to stop a threat in the UK too, despite what the tabloid rags often say. Including in the streets. And like almost all states in the USA, you have more leeway for what is deemed reasonable in the case of an intruder in your own home.
 
Angilion said:
Note that I said "many", not "all".

Those are not all of the states in the USA.

Nearly all states, even those states with a "stand your ground" version of the castle doctrine, make a legal distinction between your own home and elsewhere for the purposes of using force in defence.

You can use reasonable force to stop a threat in the UK too, despite what the tabloid rags often say. Including in the streets. And like almost all states in the USA, you have more leeway for what is deemed reasonable in the case of an intruder in your own home.
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I don't think that is true. Having lived in both countries, 'have a go heroes' in the US are treated as such, here in the UK they end up being charged or at the very least accused of a crime.
 
ubersonic said:
Get a crossbow, no licence required, more powerful than most handguns, reusable ammunition is good for the environment.
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LOL, nice idea but I have no use at all for a crossbow... and the 8 year old might get some stupid idea about using it. As we are moving at the weekend to a place with 5 acres of wood we will be getting a .22 or .303 rifle anyway ( I LOVE how easy it is to get a firearms license in NZ) in the near future which will also be stored in our room so...
 
Castiel said:
here in the UK they end up being charged or at the very least accused of a crime.
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Because they need to be investigated to establish whether their story is true. For some otherworldly reason the police here seem to think that people might lie to them. If you beat someone, then you appear to have committed a crime, so you will be arrested and charged until an investigation is completed. This may only take hours, but it might take weeks. If it turns out that you were defending yourself then charges will be dropped. But "charges have been dropped against x" isn't a news story, whereas "x is charged after burglar dies" is, so everyone gets a bad idea of how often these things get as far as court - which is almost never. But to suggest that the police shouldn't bother to investigate if a person just claims that they were defending themselves/property, and instead just say "off you go then mate" is insane.


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Meridian said:
Because they need to be investigated to establish whether their story is true. For some otherworldly reason the police here seem to think that people might lie to them. If you beat someone, then you appear to have committed a crime, so you will be arrested and charged until an investigation is completed. This may only take hours, but it might take weeks. If it turns out that you were defending yourself then charges will be dropped. But "charges have been dropped against x" isn't a news story, whereas "x is charged after burglar dies" is, so everyone gets a bad idea of how often these things get as far as court - which is almost never. But to suggest that the police shouldn't bother to investigate if a person just claims that they were defending themselves/property, and instead just say "off you go then mate" is insane.


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Meridian in making assumptions shocker!

Who said anything about not investigating the veracity of someones story....
 
Ahleckz said:
You live in a COMPOUND? Are you a leader of a cult?
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erm, sort of, ish, yes, an outsider might consider us a cult, sort of. Not religious though, and not the leader. He's like the second in command.
mrs herbs
Interestingly (Himself being a computer genius) he's made it so I can switch to cctv from my bed telly, quietly, then back again. how cool is that! All 9 cameras are displayed in the office and lounge 24 hrs a day. Do you want to know about the infrared beep beeps?
I think its really mean i'm not allowed to electrify the railings.
 
Easy solution ...

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