What would you have done? - junk mail

The point is these companies have paid to design & produce these leaflets then paid royal mail to deliver them, If it was your business and you descovered they had all just been binned I'm guessing it would be a diffrent story.

The OP did the right thing.
 
knip said:
Well I had an area manager and the sorting office manager in my house just after 7 this morning.

They asked me to write a statement of how I found the leaflets, they also took photos of the pile of them, and also of where the bin was.

I said I didn't want anyone to be losing their job, their response to that was that they had evidence he had done it before, which is why they were taking it so seriously.
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Don't feel bad, the guy/girl obviously doesn't want to be a postie
 
Energize said:
The postman did the right thing in refusing to act in an unethical manner and deliver junk to peoples houses, however he should have dumped it somewhere less noticeable.
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Could you please explain how delivering promotional material one has been paid to deliver is unethical?
Surely not delivering items you have been paid to deliver is unethical rather than the other way around.

i5aces said:
The point is these companies have paid to design & produce these leaflets then paid royal mail to deliver them, If it was your business and you descovered they had all just been binned I'm guessing it would be a diffrent story.

The OP did the right thing.
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I was going to post this earlier but didn't get around to it. Regardless of the delivery guy's opinion of how important or otherwise the material is, he is contracted by Royal Mail to deliver any items they in turn are contracted to deliver by their customers. If there is a failure to deliver the leaflets (or whatever), Royal Mail may lose business.

Also, I've never really understood the hatred for 'junk mail'. Granted, 99% of it is gash that goes straight in the bin but there is the odd thing of interest and it's not really a massive inconvenience when you think about it. I have to pick up the rest of my mail so I have to go to the front door after the postie's been anyway. It takes me a few seconds to flick through it to see if there's anything of interest and then another few seconds to wander to the recycling bin. At most, 'junk mail' that doesn't interest me takes up no more than about 20 seconds of my day - not really a major imposition, is it?
 
I'm surprised Royal Mail haven't come out with some form of direct marketing preference centre. I wouldn't mind so much if the leaflets that came through the door were related to products or services that I was interested in. This would also benefit the companies using royal mail to deliver as targeted advertising pretty much always = a higher ROI.
 
If I saw my postie putting junk mail in the bin rather than through my door I'd thank him. Frankly I have no concern about the ethical implications of not delivering junk mail as I don't think the companies spamming us with the waste paper are being very ethical or environmental.
Though I may ask him to use the recycling bin next time.

O.P, get rid of the evidence and pretend to be crazy in front of the managers so the poor guy keeps his job or else your door mat is going to be covered in junk mail from this day onwards.
 
Stan_Lite said:
Could you please explain how delivering promotional material one has been paid to deliver is unethical?
Surely not delivering items you have been paid to deliver is unethical rather than the other way around.
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Because the recipient does not want it and it damages the environment.
 
I wish my Postie would bypass my house and put junk mail where it ultimately ends up anyway - in the bin.

If it had been 'proper' mail, then yes, I would have reported it - but not spam.

Note to self: sign up to opt out of unaddressed mail.
 
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I think you jumped the gun a bit. It wasn't addressed proper mail, it was leaflets.
Why didn't you speak to the Postman yourself before costing him his job?
Yes I agree he shouldn't have dumped that in your bin, but who knows how many years he has done this job, and delivered the proper mail in full with no error?
For all you know that could simply have been extra left over that day and he decided to save himself a few minutes and bin them then and there.
He might have been soaked through, running late to collect his kids...anything.
And all that seems more important than Domino's leaflets to me.

Never had my Postman do anything wrong I'm aware of, but if he asked me if he could throw his excess leaflets in my bin id be fine with that.

Each to their own, just my opinion.
 
I think you've raised a valid point. He'll probably get a disciplinary, unless he (or she) was on probation.

After all, it starts with junk mail and where does it end?
 
I'd have just ignored it and put my rubbish in. Life is too short to moan about people dumping a few leaflets and no-one likes a grass
 
Can't say you did the 'wrong thing' but I know it wouldn't have personally bothered me enough to actually complain, it may have elicited a 'cheeky git' comment when I saw it though :p
 
Slade2 said:
This happened in plymouth a few years back some dude found some mail in a bin and when the royal mail investigated they found the mail women has been collecting the mail from the sorting office and just going home with the mail. On further investigation they found her house full of undelivered.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/mar/10/post.sandralaville
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If this is the same woman, she has some pretty hypocritical views on her wall.
https://www.facebook.com/lisa.harvey.35912
 
Energize said:
Because the recipient does not want it and it damages the environment.
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For one thing, you can't say the recipient doesn't want it. Sure, the majority of people don't want it but some people will find it useful. Also, I would argue that sending someone something they don't want does not make it unethical. I don't want Northumbrian Water to send me a water bill so them sending me one must be unethical ;)

Secondly. It isn't necessarily damaging to the environment. Many manufacturers of paper products plant 2 or 3 trees for every 1 tree they cut down - which is a good thing :)
 
knip said:
Well I had an area manager and the sorting office manager in my house just after 7 this morning.

They asked me to write a statement of how I found the leaflets, they also took photos of the pile of them, and also of where the bin was.

I said I didn't want anyone to be losing their job, their response to that was that they had evidence he had done it before, which is why they were taking it so seriously.
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Good for you :)
The guy deserves to lose his job tbh. There are plenty of honest people out there without jobs who would gladly become a postie!
 
Personally I think you did the right thing mate, at the end of the day, Post is Post and whether its junk mail or not it's the Postman's job (or Postlady's) to deliver that mail. They shouldn't be dumping it in anyones bin.
 
DJ_Bucho said:
Personally I think you did the right thing mate, at the end of the day, Post is Post and whether its junk mail or not it's the Postman's job (or Postlady's) to deliver that mail. They shouldn't be dumping it in anyones bin.
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Agreed. The Postman/lady is in no position to decide what mail should go through your door. They are employed to deliver mail, so they should deliver the mail. It really is as simple as that.
 
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