Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not

dmpoole said:
How the hell can Indie be a trend?
Indie was going when I was a young man and that was many years ago.
Indie means or did mean Independent labels. In other words bands who couldn't get signed with the big boys so the smaller boys took them on and in some cases made a killing.
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I get what you're saying, but almost nobody uses the word 'indie' to mean 'bands signed to independent labels' nowadays. There are still indie bands about in the sense that you're talking about, but they're not big an nor will they ever be - it's practically a self-fulfilling prophecy. There are a few indie bands who've made it big in the past (Placebo spring to mind) but by and large they are content to simmer away into obscurity.

Nowadays the word 'indie' refers to a style of music that uses guitars in the same was as earlier R.E.M, Pixies etc. It's a sound rather than a way of getting your music out there. You can try and be as purist as you like, but you've got to accept that times have changed!
 
chrisd said:
But listening to Razorlight and the Killers is like mainstream, man, and just so not cool.
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In all fairness, listening to Razorlight is not entirely unlike trying to scoop your brain out through your nose with a pitchfork.

The Killers are good, though :)
 
chrisd said:
But listening to Razorlight and the Killers is like mainstream, man, and just so not cool.
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The Killers were a 'word of mouth' Indie band for a year before they 'made it big'....not totally unlike the Arctic Monkeys. I wonder if now that the Arctic Monkeys have hit the mainstream in a big way, if the Indie loving fans will desert them in droves when the next band comes along as the Monkeys become totally 'uncool'.

As for the term 'Indie', it used to be used for bands on smaller independent labels. The music papers used to have a seperate chart for indie bands, which also included a lot of underground dance music. Indie music really did used to be a niche thing. Now, of course, Indie is applied to many bands, even ones not on Indie labels, so the term is misused from what it originally was. Still, its an easy way of describing a style of music.
 
I like it. I dismissed them initially due to the whole over-hype, constant playlist thing, but when I finally sat down and listened to it without prejudice I found that I do actually quite like them. I like the very subtle ska edge they have to some of their songs, gives them quite a distinctive sound. :)
 
Arcade Fire said:
In all fairness, listening to Razorlight is not entirely unlike trying to scoop your brain out through your nose with a pitchfork.

The Killers are good, though :)
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The Killers are alrite, but massively overplayed nowadays.

On the subject of Razorlight:

Courtesy of NME, I present to you this year's worst band ever. Razorlight are Britain's latest response to garage-rock's attempted world takeover (The Libertines were the first), and they hope to win your love by borrowing tricks from some of your favorite artists-- including The Strokes, Television, Lou Reed, and even Bruce Springsteen.

Certainly, the burden of the past is always a bitch, but saying that Razorlight wear their influences on their sleeves is perhaps giving them too much credit. The band simply doesn't possess the energy or conviction to qualify their songs as mimicries, let alone exculpate their sinful lack of identity-- the notion of developing a "Razorlight sound" may not have even crossed their minds yet, and might possibly never. At nearly every turn of their flaccid debut, Up All Night, Razorlight squander the ideas they've snatched up from other, more talented acts, then somehow find even more ways to ruin already perfectly uninteresting songs.
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http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/r/razorlight/up-all-night.shtml

That always makes me laugh :D
 
Carzy said:
The Killers are alrite, but massively overplayed nowadays.
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Sure, as are almost any band that makes it into the mainstream. But if we're just after genuinely good collections of 'indie' pop songs that have made it big in the last couple of years, I'd argue that there isn't much to choose from, and that The Killers definitely have to be up there. Along with the likes of The Coral, The Zutons, um... Arcade Fire? The White Stripes? Franz Ferdinand? There aren't many other bands in the same league.
 
well, i havent liked every other indie band in the last 2 years (with the exception of Bloc Party and the Strokes new album) what's a good track? and don't say all of them
 
Sic said:
well, i havent liked every other indie band in the last 2 years (with the exception of Bloc Party and the Strokes new album) what's a good track? and don't say all of them
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Probably their first EP imo. Fake Tales Of San Francisco and From Ritz To The Rubble are both quality tracks, and not as overplayed as 'Dancefloor.
 
i'm not too worried about overplayed now. it frustrates me SO MUCH when stuff gets overplayed, i just dont listen to the radio anymore.
 
Superb band, great album from start to finish. going to see them play in leeds on the NME awards tour in a couple of weeks should be great!

Also highly recommend anybody who hasnt already to get hold of the B-sides for when the sun goes down (7 & settle for a draw) from itunes both are deffinately worth getting!
 
probably a little biased, being from sheffield and all, but it has to be said, they have lived up to the hype, amazing album - they couldn't really go wrong = )
been listening to them for about a year now, going to see them in 3 weeks and i seriously can't wait =_+
yay for sheffield!
 
vodkacokebloke said:
Love the album, but not at all impressed with the naff card style casing. Give me a normal, plastic run of the mill case anyday.
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gotta agree with that.

The artwork with a picture relating too all the songs was a nice little touch.

As for the demo versions being better than the album versions its a matter of taste, for instance when i first heard the album versions of Mardy Bum and A Certain Romance about a month ago, i was disappointed, now i've had them on repeat for the past month i've come to appreciate the fact the songs are meant to be a bit more subtle, i.e Mardy Bum, its a song about someone Alex had a relationship with, hence why its a bit more mellowed out.

All i can say is 9.5/10 only song that lets the album down is the terrible new version of Riot Van.

Bring on February 17th Brixton Academy!
 
I got what I was expecting polished releases of all their best songs. Seen em twice think they are ace. I also like the fact they are keeping a very low profile and it is everyone else making the running on their behalf. With luck they will have a long successful career, failing that a short super nova leaving an untouchable legacy a la Roses.
 
When I first downloaded "I bet you look..." a year ago I thought it was just allright and only listened to it once. Since they've been hyped over the past couple of months I looked back at the song I downloaded and it was goood .:D :eek:
 
Weebull said:
I like it. I dismissed them initially due to the whole over-hype, constant playlist thing, but when I finally sat down and listened to it without prejudice I found that I do actually quite like them. I like the very subtle ska edge they have to some of their songs, gives them quite a distinctive sound. :)
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same here
 
Dont like them that much..I agree with whoever said they were a Rock and roll version of Mike Skinner. However saying that iv never really got into Indie or Pop im more into Metal so my opinion doesn't count for much.
 
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