What's happened to beer?

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Is it me or is every beer now <5% even Stella is 4.8%

I'm no booze hound (yes I am) but I like to taste my beer just like I like to taste my V&C (a single shot in a glass is pony) I understand that tax levied on alcohol is based on the %age content ad that Stella bringing down the ABV to under 5 has saved them millions, now it tastes like cack.

Bought 4 cans of Hen tonight and the sods wanted £7.50 for four :mad: everything else you could get 8 cans for £8 but all taste nasty and just end up in the loo.

Am i just an alcoholic?
 
I'd rather drink water than week beer. I'm more of an ale man myself but even that is often quite weak.

I bought some of the really cheap Lager from Tesco the other day as I left my wallet at home and only had change, the stuff in the white cans, thy was proper rough.
 
Is it me or is every beer now <5% even Stella is 4.8%

I'm no booze hound (yes I am) but I like to taste my beer just like I like to taste my V&C (a single shot in a glass is pony) I understand that tax levied on alcohol is based on the %age content ad that Stella bringing down the ABV to under 5 has saved them millions, now it tastes like cack.

Bought 4 cans of Hen tonight and the sods wanted £7.50 for four :mad: everything else you could get 8 cans for £8 but all taste nasty and just end up in the loo.

Am i just an alcoholic?

Find your local offie and they will have imported Heineken/stella/oranjeboom and the like
 
And not only is it getting weaker, the sizes are shrinking.

A 'standard' pub lager bottle used to be 330ml. Now you will find them at 300ml or the stupidly small size of 275ml.
 
Find your local offie and they will have imported Heineken/stella/oranjeboom and the like

If a shop is going to the bother of importing continental made Heineken/Stella/Oranjeboom then it'll stock far better beer than continental made Heineken/Stella/Oranjeboom.

I've wrote about the alcohol level thing a couple of times on here, and whilst I disagree with taxation on abv.'s I really doubt the vast majority would taste a difference between the two beers. It's totally a psychological thing, in my view.
 
Cider = Lansoprazole hnnnnnggggggg

I agree.
However, since I had a Nissen Fundopulation operation to fix this, I can no longer burp properly due to the tightness of the valve. This means that I the bubbles must go the other way and I get awful trapped wind pain. No heartburn anymore though!

If I have a pint, I get a straw and give it a fast stir to try and get most of the bubbles out first :p.
 
I've wrote about the alcohol level thing a couple of times on here, and whilst I disagree with taxation on abv.'s I really doubt the vast majority would taste a difference between the two beers. It's totally a psychological thing, in my view.

Do you mean that the inflationary process on the ABV for beers over the past couple of decades now appears to have plateaued and is now on the downward slope again? It seemed as if a number of brewers were prioritising the ABV over the taste but doubtless that had a lot to do with market demand. You could probably highlight a similar tend in wines also but I think they're probably a few years behind the curve on this one and it won't reduce to the same extent just yet.

With that said if you're drinking Stella for the effect rather than the taste (there's a golden opening for any beer snobs) then I can appreciate you not being especially happy if you've got to drink more to get the same effect.
 
If a shop is going to the bother of importing continental made Heineken/Stella/Oranjeboom then it'll stock far better beer than continental made Heineken/Stella/Oranjeboom.

I've wrote about the alcohol level thing a couple of times on here, and whilst I disagree with taxation on abv.'s I really doubt the vast majority would taste a difference between the two beers. It's totally a psychological thing, in my view.

Local shops "import it" because it's cheap and generally tastes better. I work in the convenience sector, although not in shops but I still speak to lots of shop owners and a lot of them do this purely for price. Some may not even pay VAT on it :eek:

As for the taste a few of my mates have done a taste test and most of us picked the Imported stuff , Original stella and the new 4.8% version.

IMO heineken is the most obvious in taste difference along with Ashai brewed under licence in the UK against the Japanese version:)

If you hadn't noticed I enjoy a Lager:p
 
Do you mean that the inflationary process on the ABV for beers over the past couple of decades now appears to have plateaued and is now on the downward slope again? It seemed as if a number of brewers were prioritising the ABV over the taste but doubtless that had a lot to do with market demand. You could probably highlight a similar tend in wines also but I think they're probably a few years behind the curve on this one and it won't reduce to the same extent just yet.

With that said if you're drinking Stella for the effect rather than the taste (there's a golden opening for any beer snobs) then I can appreciate you not being especially happy if you've got to drink more to get the same effect.

Not sure if I've read you right, but I think it's wrong that beer should be taxed based on its abv. But, I'm a craft brewery fan and they'll feel the costs of high taxation more acutely than the major players IMO.
I wouldn't say that breweries 'prioritising' ABV (at least in terms of making it higher) over taste. I think the only prioritisation going on was cost vs. everything else which is why we are seeing less raw materials being used (though, the recent poor hop yields haven't helped I suppose). Good luck having a major brewery come out with a strong beer, and not having their name and reputation dragged through the mud.

There has been a marked shift in advertising towards lower abv drinks, though I do think that this has died off of late. Becks Vier, Stella 4 and Carling C2 are the main proponents of this, and there is plenty of low strength wine around. Is this a reflection upon society? No, it's a reflection of the breweries trying to create a market to cash in.

I'm not sure that the few that drink Stella (or any other beer) for the 'effect' are going to really notice a very small drop in ABV. Sure, if they shifted Super Tennent's from 9 to 4.5, then I'd understand this viewpoint but a shift from 5% to 4.8%? No chance.

Local shops "import it" because it's cheap and generally tastes better. I work in the convenience sector, although not in shops but I still speak to lots of shop owners and a lot of them do this purely for price. Some may not even pay VAT on it :eek:

As for the taste a few of my mates have done a taste test and most of us picked the Imported stuff , Original stella and the new 4.8% version.

IMO heineken is the most obvious in taste difference along with Ashai brewed under licence in the UK against the Japanese version:)

If you hadn't noticed I enjoy a Lager:p

Well, those shops are pretty unscrupulous and shouldn't be doing that. I don't know of any shops local to me that import a branded beer that you can get in the UK easily for reasons of cost. And I know a lot of off sales. ;)

The trouble with tests is that they are very hard to conduct properly at home, as it's pretty hard to control all the variables. Though, I'm not doubting you can prefer one over the other; I question the level of preference. I reckon if I gave you 3 glasses of imported Stella and 3 glasses of British brewed Stella and didn't tell you that one was imported and one was 'local', then you wouldn't be able to tell a difference.

I wouldn't drink Heineken or Ashai, so couldn't really comment. But how they can make Ashai anything but boring and bland I do not know. :p
 
Not sure if I've read you right, but I think it's wrong that beer should be taxed based on its abv. But, I'm a craft brewery fan and they'll feel the costs of high taxation more acutely than the major players IMO.
I wouldn't say that breweries 'prioritising' ABV (at least in terms of making it higher) over taste. I think the only prioritisation going on was cost vs. everything else which is why we are seeing less raw materials being used (though, the recent poor hop yields haven't helped I suppose). Good luck having a major brewery come out with a strong beer, and not having their name and reputation dragged through the mud.

There has been a marked shift in advertising towards lower abv drinks, though I do think that this has died off of late. Becks Vier, Stella 4 and Carling C2 are the main proponents of this, and there is plenty of low strength wine around. Is this a reflection upon society? No, it's a reflection of the breweries trying to create a market to cash in.

I'm not sure that the few that drink Stella (or any other beer) for the 'effect' are going to really notice a very small drop in ABV. Sure, if they shifted Super Tennent's from 9 to 4.5, then I'd understand this viewpoint but a shift from 5% to 4.8%? No chance.

We were obviously looking at rather different points here - I thought you were initially commenting on the period where beers were coming in ever increasing strengths and we're now seeing this trend being revised downwards again but people think that beers should always be at the higher ABV rather than it being an anomaly for a time.
 
Get yer head in the Beers fo the world thread I'm sure theres some Beers aroudn 8% been posted :)

You are drinking pish water stella tho ;)

Mine was 10% this week.

I think the abv on lager went up to bring us in line with the rest of Europe where 5%+ is the norm. The fact that it's coming down to less that 5% due to this tax thing is irrelevant to me as I don't tend to drink those brands. I have a friend that was really upset by the whole thing and thinks it tastes different, I'm pretty sure it tastes just as **** as it always did.

The fact that they sacrifice the abv to save a few pence speaks volumes.
 
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