What's in a name? (Hopkins vs Willoughby)

Castiel · 5 Jul 2013 at 07:40

Spook187 said:
Yes i have seen the clip, the point was deluded, she is deluded, total nonsence.

Indeed.

Cosimo · 5 Jul 2013 at 07:41

Theophany said:
Stupid people on TV.

Indeed. I gave up after watching three minutes of this drivel. What a waste of time.

estebanrey · 5 Jul 2013 at 07:41

wibbly · 5 Jul 2013 at 07:42

weringo said:
"I don't like geographical names"

"....Your child's called India"

"But that's not related to a location"

And that's the point I stopped watching.

I had to laugh out loud at that point... The rest of the time I sat in disbelief that someone so stupid could adorn our screens!

Frightful Boar · 5 Jul 2013 at 07:49

Spook187 said:
Yes i have seen the clip, the point was deluded, she is deluded, total nonsense.

Great. So you WERE just pretending to be confused. Gotcha.

Freefaller · 5 Jul 2013 at 07:53

To be fair she has a point - there are too many chavvy names/parents out there.

However she's just being sensationalist. She's myopic, ignorant, and frankly in a different world to 99.9% of people.

Castiel · 5 Jul 2013 at 07:54

Freefaller said:
To be fair she has a point - there are too many chavvy names/parents out there.

It's not the names...it's the people themselves.

peterwalkley · 5 Jul 2013 at 07:56

Just goes to show what utter drivel the apprentice is. Its just big brother in a suit.

estebanrey · 5 Jul 2013 at 07:58

Freefaller said:
To be fair she has a point - there are too many chavvy names/parents out there.

She would have a point if she was talking about how a child's name could affect their lives generally and how other kids might perceive them. However her actual 'point' was that it is right for parents to judge other people's children by their names to the point of dictating whom her children can and can't play with based purely on their moniker. Which is just stupid.

What made me laugh was when she kept defending her prejudice because it's just a "short cut". I mean, just exactly how busy is this woman that she doesn't even have time to meet her kids' friends and has to resort to a name checking system?

Castiel · 5 Jul 2013 at 08:02

Did she not say she hated geographical names, and someone pointed out her daughter is called India?

A foolish woman who is just seeking attention.

Freefaller · 5 Jul 2013 at 08:02

Of course it isn't - my comment wasn't entirely serious.

NZB · 5 Jul 2013 at 08:15

Here face at the end when Holly shut her up was worth watching it through

Irish_Tom · 5 Jul 2013 at 08:29

Biohazard said:
I think that people that look like her should be classified as horse…

…and given to Findus?

wingman · 5 Jul 2013 at 08:35

There's a chapter in Freakonomics which discusses the impact of a name. It suggests that the name reflects the wealth and class of the parent, thus effecting the school and neighbourhood said child grows up in how much better a shot that they have at wealth and social status.

elmarko · 5 Jul 2013 at 08:37

Actually, I've done statistical analysis on large data-sets & have found a number of strong correlations between just first name & a number of factors.

Age, socio-economic class, propensity to get into debt, employment status, product selection, tenure & a whole host of other dimensions.

Not that I'd use them in real life mind, but if I got a message from somebody called say.. "Kayleigh" I could guess reasonably accurately (much better than random) the location, age & socio-economic class.

Obviously we don't look for this kind of thing specifically, but when creating predictive models it spits out these things amongst the rule-sets (we then filter out the ones we should not use on ethical discriminatory grounds).

Ironically, the better social mobility is within an area, the less use name is to predict these variables (when say comparing UK, Wales, Scotland) - in a great society with perfect social mobility it would be useless.

BrightonBelle · 5 Jul 2013 at 08:58

Castiel said:
Did she not say she hated geographical names, and someone pointed out her daughter is called India?

A foolish woman who is just seeking attention.

YES! What an idiot.

At least she admitted to being ugly.

BB x

busbyuk · 5 Jul 2013 at 09:00

I believe there was a guy who did a social experiment with his own children no less in which he named one child Winner and one child Loser.

What actually ended up happening is the child called Loser went on to be more sucesful apparently due to trying harder although to be honesty I don't believe the correlation.

Theophany · 5 Jul 2013 at 09:11

elmarko said:
Actually, I've done statistical analysis on large data-sets & have found a number of strong correlations between just first name & a number of factors.

Age, socio-economic class, propensity to get into debt, employment status, product selection, tenure & a whole host of other dimensions.

Not that I'd use them in real life mind, but if I got a message from somebody called say.. "Kayleigh" I could guess reasonably accurately (much better than random) the location, age & socio-economic class.

Obviously we don't look for this kind of thing specifically, but when creating predictive models it spits out these things amongst the rule-sets (we then filter out the ones we should not use on ethical discriminatory grounds).

Ironically, the better social mobility is within an area, the less use name is to predict these variables (when say comparing UK, Wales, Scotland) - in a great society with perfect social mobility it would be useless.

I'd be interested to know what some of the names in my clan suggest

[FnG]magnolia · 5 Jul 2013 at 09:14

Is Holly putting on a posh accent or does she always speak like that? It sounds like she's trying to out faux-poshing the numpty she's interviewing.

godinman · 5 Jul 2013 at 09:23

aln said:
I don't know any thin or hot Clairs but to be fair, thin and hot tends to be a minority in woman I actually know. I think I need to move.

I know an absolutely bang tidy fell runner called Claire.

What's in a name? (Hopkins vs Willoughby)

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