Whats the best all rounder

[Boycie]

Hey Guys,

I've got two machines, one has a E2140 and the other has a A64 3200 Winchester in it. Which one is the best all rounder? This may sound like a stupid question but i've been out of the hardware section since i bought the A64 and dont really know much about these C2D's

Thanks
Luke

 

[skanky]

most likely the E2140 for all round tbh.

 

[Alex UK]

Yes, the C2D is much more advanced, and so would be the better all rounder.

 

[pitchfork]

Yep another for the C2D, it's just a better cpu in all aspects i'd say.

 

[gurusan]

yup...core architecture is much more efficient so it's faster...also it's got 2 cores vs only the 1 in the 3200+

 

[Boycie]

Ok thanks guys, another question, i know this isnt the overclocking section but the system with the C2D in it has a Team Elite 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR2 PC2-6400C5 800MHz Dual Channel Kit in it, is there any scope for overclocking with this ram, i'm a little confused about the 800mhz bit and the apparent FSB setting in the BIOS which reads 200mhz could someone explain to me how it all relates to each other. Bear in mind the last time i knew how to overclock was when the intels had quad pump on the fsb to ram speed i.e. 200=800 is it still the same?

Many Thanks
Luke

 

[melbourne720]

The RAM is doubled, the FSB is quad pumped.

@200

CPU speed = 9 multi x 200 = 1.8GHz
Memory = 2 x 200 = 400MHz (assuming 1:1 with the FSB)
Quad pumped FSB = 4 x 200 = 800MHz (but most people refer to the pre quad score when OC'ing, helps with thinking what the CPU and memory are at).

 

[Boycie]

The RAM is doubled, the FSB is quad pumped.

@200

CPU speed = 9 multi x 200 = 1.8GHz
Memory = 2 x 200 = 400MHz (assuming 1:1 with the FSB)
Quad pumped FSB = 4 x 200 = 800MHz (but most people refer to the pre quad score when OC'ing, helps with thinking what the CPU and memory are at).

Great thanks for the explanation - so this basically means the ram is already running at its rated speed.

 

[melbourne720]

Great thanks for the explanation - so this basically means the ram is already running at its rated speed.

If your FSB is only 200, and your RAM is PC6400 running at 1:1, then it is running at half speed actually

 

[Boycie]

Interesting stuff, i put the FSB up to 250mhz and the machine failed to start, stuck it at 210 and gave me 90mhz overclock which was stable. Any ideas what to do?

Cheers

Dan

 

[melbourne720]

Okay, so we're going to need to know

Parts (Motherboard would be useful)
Voltages (CPU Vcore and northbridge)

It would be useful to check that the RAM is not on a multiplier (like 2:1).

 

[Boycie]

Of course sorry
Mobo: ASrock 945G-DVI
RAM: 2GB Team Elite PC6400 timings: 4,4,4,11,15 @ 265.9MHZ
FSB : DRAM = 3:4
CPU: C2D E2160 1800Mhz Multi=9 bus speed=200mhz Rated FSB=800mhz, 1.312V

This is all taken out of CPUZ

 

[melbourne720]

Lower the multiplier of the CPU, and try again at 250 (with the RAM on 1:1 so to avoid OCing that). If it fails to boot then the it's the FSB that probably needs more juice, if it boots then its the CPU.