What's the "best" Android sat nav app with local maps?

Just thought I'd add to this thread as I have both Sygic and Copilot with live traffic enabled in both cases.

I tested their redirection abilities today, on hearing of an overturned vehicle on the M1 near Nottingham. I plotted a route with both from Chesterfield to Derby.

Copilot is clearly better integrated with its live traffic service, which is provided by Navteq. You can set a threshold for traffic delay for it to search for a better route. At the threshold it will tell you about the traffic detected and if it can find a better way round. If it finds a faster route you can switch to it with a single button press. For the test above, it detected a 40 minute delay on the M1 and offered to route via the A38.

Sygic detected a 25 minute delay and no re-route was offered. It's possible to manually route around it but this takes a few button presses and would be much more of a faff while driving than the single Co-Pilot button press. By manually indicating I wanted to avoid it, sygic saved about 10 minutes. As I had the function to automatically route around traffic enabled I queried this with the developer. It turns out that it will only auto-divert if the route is actually blocked - much less convenient than Co-pilot's system.

Another difference is integration of Traffic with routing. Copilot seems to integrate traffic flow data for all motorways, dual carriageways and most single carriageway A-Roads in its routing estimates and it offers 3 routes. This flow info over-rides the road input speed options for practically all Motorways and Dual Carriageways and some A-Roads. This over-rides the input values for preferred road speeds input by the user (I use 70mph for motorways and dual carriageways, 40mph for primary routes, 30mph for secondary routes and 20mph for local routes - tried using 60 for primary but it gave very weird routing for anywhere that didn't have live traffic). This works very well in Sheffield where the mapping has A-roads as primary routes. There Co-Pilot seems to give very similar routes to the IQroutes / HDtraffic routes given on Tomtom's website. It works less well in Chestefield where the mapping has B roads (with no live traffic data) as primary routes.

Sygic's traffic is provided by Inrix. It seems to work on delay time rather than flow-rate. In practice this means that traffic doesn't affect routing much unless there is an actual incident with associated delay detected on route. I've also compared Inrix's coverage vs Navteq's and the latter seems to have more complete coverage on single carriageway A roads round here.

Sygic is much prettier and seems to give more sensible routes near where I live before the traffic comes into play. Having said that - Co-Pilot's traffic integration gives it the edge. I'll probably move to using Copilot as my main navigation. Still, it's irritating that there have to be any button presses. I'd like an option to just auto-reroute to save delays. I hate button pressing on the move.

Edit: Now got Navigon too. First impressions are good. TTS voice direction is as good as Sygic, routing is sensible so far and traffic re-routing can be automated. I've not had chance to test the traffic redirection implementation yet though.
 
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Further to the above post - I've had my first experience of Navigon trying to re-route me on the fly. I say trying because just as I was in the left hand lane approaching a roundabout to take the first exit, Navigon chirps up something like "traffic event detected: re-routing - at the roundabout take the 6th exit". About a second later I saw the jam I was doomed to enter as it wasn't safe to pull over 3 lanes to take the other route.

The jam turned out to be about a 5-10 minute delay, caused by a crashed car that was about to be recovered when I got there. Good job Navigon - well spotted. Traffic detected and route changed to avoid with no intervention on my part. That's exactly what I've been looking for in a live traffic navigation app. Now if you'd just re-routed me about 10 seconds earlier I could have actually safely avoided the traffic jam.

Impressions of Navigon's Myroutes seems good so far. It's offered me sensible but different route choices for different times of the day.

In other news - the TTS voice directions from Navigon are very good. I've only heard Sygic sound more natural. However, Navigon's routes have been sensible for the most part (it did want me to go down a 'no motor vehicles except access' road yesterday but I spotted the sign and carried on - rerouting was very fast). Sygic's routes have a pathological affinity for A roads and motorways to the point of being ludicrous. That makes Sygic practically unusable for shorter journeys IMO and leaves Navigon leading the pack.

I must have tried a good deal of the nagigation apps for Android now. To summarise, I'd rank them as follows:

Navigon*
Co-Pilot Live Premium*
Waze (if you live somewhere that's well mapped with plenty of other users and mainly just use it for traffic avoidance)
Google Navigator
Sygic* (this would be first or second if the routes weren't mental and the traffic redirction next to useless without a passenger to press buttons for you - updates are promised by the developer to rectify this in a few months)
Navfree* (basis and no life traffic yet but for a free app with downloaded maps you can't argue - Economic routing is idiotic though...)
Be-on-road = Wise-pilot (both seemed alright apart from crashing repeatedly on my Defy+)
Waze (if you live somewhere with rubbish maps and no users and want to use it to actually navigate)

*To link in to the OP - the Apps marked with an asterisk have locally stored maps.
 
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I never used the previous Co-Pilot version (v8) but I gather route selection is better now. It will offer you up to 3 routes and having selected one you can drag the route like you can on Google Maps on a PC to get the exact route you want. With live traffic it will show time estimates for each of the 3 routes at the planning stage.

I like Co-Pilot Live Premium. Traffic detection is better than Google Navigation (which won't tell you if a road is actually closed) but redirection requires you to hit an OK button rather than happening entirely dynamically. It has the best route-planning options of all the apps I've tried. You can also move your licence between Android devices, so I'll be moving my licence to my wife's phone soon and I'll keep Navigon on mine.

Navigon's more sensible routing, superior voice direction and fully automated dynamic traffic redirection mean that it's my navigation app of choice. I was expecting to move to Tomtom (for IQRoutes and HD Traffic) if they ever release an Android app but now I don't think I'll really want to as Navigon seems good enough.

Edit: A plus for Sygic - customer service. I emailed them regarding my concerns regarding routing and the traffic service and they emailed back quickly (answering within a few hours on a Saturday aftenoon!). After discussing my concerns and giving some explanation of planned changes for future updates (they say they will change the routing algorithm and implement fully automated traffic redirection in a few months) they have offered me the option of a full refund. Can't complain about that so well done to them.
 
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Navfree is free (obviously) and the maps updated in April so....yeah it's good. Navigation is also sound and voice directions are clear.
 
navfree is the only one i know , but the map packacks are large something like 400mb so make sure you downdload them over wifi

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.navfree.android.OSM.ALL

theres a lot of comments like "Cannot enter address offline. What's the point of having offline map database when you can't use it offline???" but i have been able to search for an address with no data connection so maybe they are doing it wrong or didnt download the map pack + postcode pack

Been using it since the Beta stages, and I've never had a problem inputting an address or postcode, like you said install the Postcode add-on and it works no probs! :)

I've got the majority of Europe along with the UK/Ireland maps!! All Free :)

Tried NavFree today which seems usable but has distracting adverts and looks a bit basic. Copilot is looking the favourite at the moment after seeing your comments and browsing the web.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Nav-Free only shows the Ads when in the Menus or Map mode, once in Nav Mode (even without a route input) I never get a single Ad! :confused:
 
Most of the ones I mentioned do, although I think Navigon doesn't display it by and I've not had a proper fiddle with settings to check if it can.

Having said that, Navigon's speed limit data seems spot on round here and you can set it to give an audible warning if you go much over the limit.

In Navfree, Waze, Sygic and Co-pilot it's displayed fairly prominently.

But yeah - if all you want is a GPS speedo app then there are plenty of dedicated ones that will fill the screen without any satnav faff. Watch for phone GPS accuracy giving screwy results though.
 
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Navfree shows speed among other info yes.
Thanks (: I will give it a try

Cheers for the link, I have been using one but when I use google maps I have to suffer without a speedo!


Most of the ones I mentioned do, although I think Navigon doesn't display it by and I've not had a proper fiddle with settings to check if it can.

Having said that, Navigon's speed limit data seems spot on round here and you can set it to give an audible warning if you go much over the limit.

In Navfree, Waze, Sygic and Co-pilot it's displayed fairly prominently.

But yeah - if all you want is a GPS speedo app then there are plenty of dedicated ones that will fill the screen without any satnav faff. Watch for phone GPS accuracy giving screwy results though.

Ahh perfect thanks for replying (:
 
That's weird on Google Maps... If I use Google Nav it shows me my current speed!!.. Maybe there's a setting/tick box you need to check!! :)

I don't use Google Nav much as I only have a 500Mb data plan (for the next year :( )
 
That's weird on Google Maps... If I use Google Nav it shows me my current speed!!.. Maybe there's a setting/tick box you need to check!! :)

I don't use Google Nav much as I only have a 500Mb data plan (for the next year :( )

Google Maps/Nav has never done this... :confused:
 
Uriel - does Navigon have a Postcode search? I tried it some time ago and Postcode search had been crippled as I remember. Other than that it was good. Been trying Sygic and in honesty found it quite good. Certainly no probs with routing around here though maybe need to go further afield when time allows. They're developing version 12 of Sygic and out in beta currently. Be interesting to see how it shapes up when it gets to full release. Has the potential to be good.
 
Uriel - does Navigon have a Postcode search? I tried it some time ago and Postcode search had been crippled as I remember. Other than that it was good. Been trying Sygic and in honesty found it quite good. Certainly no probs with routing around here though maybe need to go further afield when time allows. They're developing version 12 of Sygic and out in beta currently. Be interesting to see how it shapes up when it gets to full release. Has the potential to be good.

Yes it does. When it asks for city you type the postcode and it works fine from what I've tried. I think postcode used to be an extra that they charged for but not any more.

From my discussions with the Sygic developer I gather that the routing is heavily reliant on road type. If there's a primary route it sees it as much faster than local roads. There are a few instances around here when there is a 30mph A-Road nearby with lots of traffic lights and a 30mph local roads nearby with no traffic lights. Assuming both are clear, the local road is both faster and shorter.

Here's an example from Sheffield showing the route differences. All roads are 30mph limits.

Google Navigation and Co-Pilot give the following route:
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?sadd...FavwLQMdRHLp_w&mra=mift&mrsp=1&sz=15&t=m&z=15

Navigon and Waze give the following route, which is the one most locals would take and avoids 3 sets of traffic lights:
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?sadd...QMdRHLp_w&mra=dpe&mrsp=1&sz=15&via=1&t=m&z=15 Thanks to avoiding the lights it's consistently faster. I've seen emergent behaviour here in Waze. It didn't initially follow this route but had picked it up, presumably after enough users chose to drive that way.

Sygic gives the following route:
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?sadd...MdRHLp_w&mra=dvme&mrsp=1&sz=15&via=1&t=m&z=15

The Sygic route is frankly painful. It sends users up a winding, narrow and steep local road with a difficult right turn onto the A61. It gives the driver an extra set of traffic lights to wait at and leads them straight into a long traffic jam every time the road is busy.

When I first tried Sygic I was relatively impressed with the routing but I've seen this sort of behaviour most times I've been on a secondary or local road with a primary route, dual carriageway or motorway nearby. Sygic will do everything it can to take the most direct route to the main road, leading to some bizarre routing choices.
 
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i have been using Ndrive on my iphone for a while now and loved it. noticed there is an android equivalent, so i imagine it will be as good. think the 2011 version supports lane changes and re-routing if there is a delay too.
 
I used Sygic in the US recently as I wanted the lane directions (as they come off left and right in the US). It was fine. You can choose which states to download the maps for so it doesn't take up your whole SD card.
 
Whats the difference between, the Copilot GPS (free) and Copilot Live Premium (£24.98)?
If its just voice insructions that can be added to the free version for £19
 
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