Whats the catch??

Hesky82

Hesky82

Hesky82

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G.Skill 2GB HZ PC4000
OCZ 2GB Gold GX XTC PC4000
Mushkin 2GB XP4000 Extreme Performance

All those dual channel sets use Samsung UCCC chips on Brain Power 808 boards, so there pretty much the same ram. What I cant understand is why the G.skills are significantly cheaper than the OCZ and Mushkin. Is there a catch???
 
No.

I suspect G.Skill are just trying to capture a following and a market share from the memory producing giants.

I'd expect their prices to go up once this happens.

I have some of G.Skills ZX and find them to be excellent.

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Damn OCUK just dropped the price of the HZ sticks to just over 140 bux, I just couldn’t resist it!!
average oc seems to be 270-280 fsb, some even manage 290 with these HZ's.
hope they perform for me :)
 
Well the Mushkin is way better will always overclock well, OCZ pretty much the same G Skill is hit and miss quite a lot was faulty around the end of last year into this year.
I bought some Corsair 2 sets and they are average will do 276 3-4-4-8 my mate has some G Skill HZ wich he's got problems with I am right now testing it in my other PC the max I can get from it at the moment is 262 running memtest as I write this it just failed at 264 this is at 3-4-4-8 trying different settings and voltages to see if I can get it any further.

I have in the past had problems with G Skill it was faulty so I got a refund, I personally wouldn't spend my money on it until they prove to be more reliable and consistant.

I have had quite a lot of OCZ which has always overclocked very well certainly the best overclocking RAM I've had by a long way.

Hope this helps. ;-)
 
most people manage good overclocks with the g.skill sticks over on the xs forum, perhaps your friend is unlucky, heck it uses the same Samsung UCCC chips on Brain Power 808 pcb's. so if they work they should clock the same as the mushkins. just cant justify spending 50quid more for stick that may or may not clock slightly better. I've had nothin but problems with my OCZ so the brand doesnt make much difference imo
 
Hesky82 said:
most people manage good overclocks with the g.skill sticks over on the xs forum, perhaps your friend is unlucky, heck it uses the same Samsung UCCC chips on Brain Power 808 pcb's. so if they work they should clock the same as the mushkins. just cant justify spending 50quid more for stick that may or may not clock slightly better. I've had nothin but problems with my OCZ so the brand doesnt make much difference imo
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Speed binning is the difference and quality control, have a brouse through this memory section over the last 2 weeks you will see G Skill features many times. I've not given up on these sticks yet maybe more fine tuning will get better results.
 
haven’t seen much regarding the HZ's on this forum, just been keeping an eye on xs and noticing the new batch of g skills are performing pretty well, I'm no doubt gonna run a divider so I'm not to bothered about getting massive fsb, will of course push it as high as they go but if they crap out at 260 no biggie. Like I said just cant bring myself to spending a whole 50quid extra on another brand in the hope they will clock slightly better.
 
Well I have just bought some G.Skill 2GB DDR HZ PC4000 (2x1GB) CAS3 Dual Channel Kit .

Waiting on delivery.
Lets hope for good things:)
 
You'll be pleased to know the ram is fully stable at 257MHz with timings of 3-4-3-7 so for now it's looking much better than my mate could get, just takes a bit of juggling with the options, I'm going to relax the timings now and shoot for higher MHz I feel pretty certain they will go over 270 at 3-4-4-8 maybe even more with luck, considering they are meant to run at 250 at 3-4-4-8 I think that's a good overclock I've certainly had RAM that did MUCH worse than this.

I do hope Hesky82 that yours is good I never meant to knock your confidence I was just saying it as it is, from your sig you obviously know how to overclock so I'm pretty sure you'll get the best from them. I notice your running OCZ Rev 2 it is that RAM that I was refferring to when I said how well it overclocks the other TCCD RAM I've had nothing comes close to that Rev 2 OCZ but maybe I might have a Golden set who knows?

Good luck anyway and please let us know how you get on. :-))
 
Doing better now can get 271MHz at 3-4-4-8 been priming now for nearly 5 hours it did fail at 275 MHz so I might be getting close what is interesting is that it works better at 2.55v so it appears the Samsung UCCC chips like low volts which is good in my opinion, I will keep pushing and see how far I get.
 
I've had good fortune with the 2 gig XMS3500LL set. I've not even bothered pushing it and it gets 2.5-3-3-6 at 260 with 3 volts (though i normally run it at 240 with 2-3-3-6). It's not cheap though. I still run it with a divider to get my opt 144 up to FX speeds, but it's the best (if most expensive) ram i've had.

Though i've not tried the mushkin i have heard good things about it.
 
Hesky82 said:
yup just like early tccd chips more volts can hurt, not like winbond or infineon chips.
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Have you got yours flying yet? Must say I was so impressed with my mates G Skill I've traded him my Corsair he can't be bothered with the setting up! That's the bit I enjoy:-)

It's sitting on mine nicely @ 260 3-4-3-7 with 2.55v all the other timings are very tight settled for that because my X2 4400 is OK at 260X10 with only 1.4v I'm a bit of a low voltage freak since I killed a FX55 :-(

Keep us informed how yours goes :)
 
270MHz at 3-4-4-8 is my max, was hoping for a little more, ah well.
tried upping the voltage just for the point of it and it didn’t make a blind bit of difference!
 
kimandsally said:
I personally wouldn't spend my money on it until they prove to be more reliable and consistant.
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kimandsally said:
Must say I was so impressed with my mates G Skill I've traded him my Corsair he can't be bothered with the setting up! That's the bit I enjoy:-)
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gotta love how fast you changed your tune ;)
 
Hesky82 said:
gotta love how fast you changed your tune ;)
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I suppose I try to always say it as it is, I did have some bad results in the past but it's only fair on the people who read this forum that if I have a good experience then it should also be said otherwise they might miss out on something.

It's something an old friend taught me when I was 14 he said no matter good or bad tell it as is "that's what you would expect someone to do to you isn't it?"

Anyway glad yours is going well, in honesty 3-4-4-8 @270 is pretty dam good because you also have the benefit of tighter timings with a divider what will it do @ 2.5-3-3-6 ? If it will do that @250 then it could be faster than 3-4-4-8 @270.
 
Just to let you guys know I failed Prime after 4h 12mins with my XMS3500 at 243 with 2-3-3-6 timings. My temps seemed to be ok and the volts should have been adequate, so i think that it was the ram that gave way first. The computer didn't crash though and it's been on for 14 hours.
 
kimandsally said:
I suppose I try to always say it as it is, I did have some bad results in the past but it's only fair on the people who read this forum that if I have a good experience then it should also be said otherwise they might miss out on something.

It's something an old friend taught me when I was 14 he said no matter good or bad tell it as is "that's what you would expect someone to do to you isn't it?"

Anyway glad yours is going well, in honesty 3-4-4-8 @270 is pretty dam good because you also have the benefit of tighter timings with a divider what will it do @ 2.5-3-3-6 ? If it will do that @250 then it could be faster than 3-4-4-8 @270.
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UCCC chips rarely manage CL 2.5 at 250mhz, I really doubt mine will do that
 
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