What's the current hotness/sweet spot memory for an intel system?

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Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere, but where is the current B/$ of memory speed for an intel system? ...

I have a friend who has a 13900k and recently wanted to upgrade from 32 > 64GB becuase Tarkov seems to want more... He's currently on 2x16 @ 5600/c36.
He bought another matching set, but can't get it running at more than 4000MHz (and has tried putting a bit more voltage through it!) - We're assuming that 4 sticks is the bulk of the issue.

I'm pretty out of the loop on Intel as I've been on Ryzen since 2017 - For AMD I'd be suggesting 6000/C30, but just wondered if it would be better on Intel to lean more in favour of MHz rather than timings (i.e. something like 6000/c30 vs 6600/c32)?

Cheers!
 
He bought another matching set
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That’s the issue.

Running 4 sticks of DDR5 is incredibly difficult and I’m not surprised that he’s facing issues.

He’d be better off with a 2 by 24gig kit of ~7200 or a 2 by 32gig kit of 6600~ (maybe faster depending on the quality of the CPU memory controller)

I’d suggest doing a BIOS update to prevent the CPU from imploding as a first step and the second step would be to sell those kits and buy a kit that Buildzoid recommends.

I’ll post some suggestions from his blog when I get a moment as his videos are difficult to digest at the best of times.
 
Here https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-ddr5-to-buy-84547490

What DDR5 to buy June 14 2023
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The best memory chips are.
Hynix 16Gb A-die: Speeds of 8000Mbps and higher are possible if your CPU/mobo are good enough. Similar timings to 16Gb M-die

Hynix 16Gb M-die: Tends to max out between 7200 and 7600Mbps similar timings to 16Gb A-die

Hynix 24Gb M-die: Even higher clocking than 16Gb A-die. Slightly looser timings

2x16GB ===============================================

Warning if you see a memory kit with a spec like: 6400 36-46-46-100 @ 1.4V it's almost certainly using cut down 24Gb Micron ICs which don't OC very well so don't buy it unless it's really cheap. Corsair seems to have a lot of these high speed loose Micron kits.

TEAMGROUP T-Create Classic 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory (CTCCD532G5600HC46DC01) - ************
//should always be Hynix 16Gb A-die. Manually tuning this is way more cost effective than buying high speed (7200+) XMP kits and hoping that they work. Great for both AMD and intel. The stock performance kinda sucks because it's just JEDEC spec.

Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory (RFBB5-60C40K2/32) - ************
//should be Hynix most of the time but can also be Samsung.

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K) - ************
//Great for Ryzen if you just want to turn on EXPO/XMP(AM5 boards are able to read XMP)

G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory (F5-6000J3238F16GX2-FX5) - ************
//Great for Ryzen if you just want to turn on EXPO/XMP(AM5 boards are able to read XMP)

PROXMEM KERBEROS 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL38 Memory (PGD5U64A38XX7-K0WC) - ************
// Another Hynix based option. Will need an underclock on Ryzen.

OLOy Blade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory (ND5U1660320BRKDE) - ************
// Another Hynix based option.

Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (CMK32GX5M2B6000C30) - ************
// Another Hynix based option.

Patriot Venom RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6200 CL40 Memory (PVVR532G620C40K) - ************
//should be Hynix

GeIL Polaris RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL38 Memory (GOSG532GB6400C38ADC) - ************
// Another Hynix option

TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6800 CL34 Memory (FF4D532G6800HC34BDC01) - ************
//Highest XMP speed I'd expect to work on all 13th gen chips. A lot of 12th gen won't run it.

I don't recommend 7200 or higher rated kits because the stability is too RNG.

2x24GB ==============================================

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory (F5-6000J4048F24GX2-RS5K) - ************
// Can be 24Gb Micron so don't expect it to overclock much but at least it's not expensive

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-7200 CL36 Memory (F5-7200J3646F24GX2-TZ5RK) - ************
// Has to be Hynix 24Gb M-die. Great for hitting very high mem clocks on intel

2x32GB ===============================================

TEAMGROUP T-Create Classic 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory (CTCCD564G5600HC46DC01) - ************
// Should always be Hynix. So a cost effective option if you overclock it.

TEAMGROUP T-Create Classic 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL48 Memory (CTCCD564G6000HC48DC01) - ************
// Should always be Hynix. So a cost effective option if you overclock it.

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (F5-6000J3040G32GX2-RS5K) - ************
// Hynix with a strong profile for both Ryzen and intel

Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6600 CL32 Memory (CMK64GX5M2B6600C32) - ************
// strong XMP for intel 13th gen that shouldn't cause stability problems

2x48GB ===============================================

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-5600 CL40 Memory (F5-5600J4040D48GX2-RS5K) - ************
//Should be Hynix 24Gb M-die. Might also be Micron.

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (F5-6400J3239F48GX2-TZ5RK) - ************
// has to be Hynix 24Gb M-die. Should be a strong overclocker. Might also work at 6000 on Ryzen.

I have 0 experience with quad rank DDR5 setups(4x32 and 4x48GB) and don't recommend them since they put way too much load on the memory controller
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I bought this kit last week and its very good. It is Hynix A-die, not tried to overclock as dont see any point. I paid £115

Lexar ARES RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB Kit (16GB x 2) 6400 MHz, DRAM 288-Pin UDIMM Desktop Memory, Gaming Computer Memory for XMP 3.0, AMD EXPO, CL32-38-38-76, 1.4V (LD5EU016G-R6400GDLA)​

 
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Thanks all!

Yeah I've already told him to update the BIOS, which I think he has done already. As soon as he mentioned 4 sticks I figured that would be the problem - I'll put him on to some of those kits mentioned in Jolly's post. The 6600c32 Vengeance will probably fit the bill nicely :)
 
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