whats the other specs?

its like them primo builds, i asked about them and seen others asked and then replies are usually dont get one, get this self made spec with higher spec and at times it makes me think, if OC gone to the trouble to make them kits, surely they got to be good at the gaming side of things aswell as general use.
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A lot of people come looking for a PC for whatever reason. When they mention bundles or prebuilds, we make them aware that they can get more for their money building it themselves. And quite a lot actually end up doing just that. We also give them links to guides and video tutorials, to help them decide. But if they still don`t have the confidence or time to build it, then we will recommend what we believe is the best system, along with any changes or upgrades.
Although I did not see your thread in the Small Form Factor, out of the 3 systems I would have recommended the Zotac. The other two would be a waste of money. But personally I would be looking at the Shuttle, as it would allow for upgrading when your needs change.
 
i appreciate the further responses...

as for the budgets, i should probably make things more clearer to start with lol, any price i ask for ideas for never include a OS, Monitor, Keyboard or Mouse unless i mention it, bar monitor and mouse i do need the other things, but thoses are of less importance, for the examples of 300 quid etc im looking at the spec of the actual computer, unless things like OS come within the budget...

my missus has the biostar Ideq N1 which is like the shuttle, nice computer and i do like the shuttles themselves, but the reason for the Zotac Preference is something small and subtle to act as a multimedia and storage and barely take up room just like my external HDD it would replace..
 
my missus has the biostar Ideq N1 which is like the shuttle, nice computer and i do like the shuttles themselves, but the reason for the Zotac Preference is something small and subtle to act as a multimedia and storage and barely take up room just like my external HDD it would replace..
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Well, if you want something really small, there is always Raspberry pi.
 
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