Whats the point of linux ?

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I dont wish to cause a huge fight or get flamed, despite the title of this thread. I just wondered if anyone had gone from Vista or XP to linux and stayed there ? And if so, why ? In what way is it better ?

I've tried linux a few times and every time i install it i think "Hmm, this looks nice - now what ? None of my software works - i cant do anything other than browse the web/send emails and type documents".

I know it's rock solid as a server OS but what exactly is the point of it or benefit over something like vista for the average home user? And please dont say "because its free", i dont accept this as a decent argument. It's not like vista or XP are HUGELY expensive. I also dont accept stability as a decent argument. Maybe 10 years ago but not now. XP and Vista are extremely stable.

A part of me really WANTS to prefer linux over windows but like i said, every time i install it i just get this "now what" feeling
 
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I think XP is better for the desktop, I personally use XP and when I need to, just use Linux under VMware/vbox.
There isn't much Linux can't do compared to windows, mainly lacking in the gaming area really but it can still be done. The ability to get free software fairly quickly and easily (through pre-compiled packages) is much better than windows, where you may have to pay/go search the net for what you want.

When I first experimented with linux, I also got the 'now what' feeling, but if you're running a live CD or are running in a virtual machine, you can just experiment; try to customise your desktop, poke around and try configuring stuff to do what you want. Try out the 3D desktops. get your graphics card drivers installed/compiled, try compiling a small program from source, try configuring a firewall (shorewall/ip tables).

If games worked as well as they do on windows, I'd probably switch to Linux.
 
I think what you need to think is what do you use your computer for?

I use it for programming, chatting, e-mails, web browsing, web developing, but I'm a student and can't afford software.

Linux does all of this and for programming linux is much easier environment (In my opinion) to use compared to windows.

I think the Main reason I like linux is the community behind, if I have a problem I can ask it in a forum and get a reply with a solution nice and easy, windows I don't get the impression that this is as easy to get help for free.

And as mentioned before the software is all pre-packaged ready for use, no searching required

Down side for these sorts of advantages is that no hardware just works with linux i.e. ipods, phones so that puts everything down a notch.

Linux only uses open source software - while wine is closing this gap so you can use windows software, its still far from perfect

Finally games - this is probably one of the main things you use your computer for and this is where windows excels.

Just think what you do with your computer, post it and see if people can give you an alternative on linux - if they can't then linux simply isn't for you, its not a bad thing and at the end of the day with ubuntu's wubi its never been easier to install ubuntu :-)

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Price: It might not be for you, but free-as-in-beer is a big selling point for me. I can get a fresh new version every year or so and never have to pay a dime to upgrade.

Security: It has a long tradition of being extremely secure, especially when paired with application software that make it easy to use the built-in security tools. Case in point Uncomplicated Firewall as a frontend for iptables. Both systems have major bugs and security flaws from time to time. As a major generalization such bugs in Linux (and associated other programs) get fixed quickly; hours or days. Those in Windows take days or weeks, depending on the position in the patch cycle.

Convenience: I can take a working disk image and roll it out to an infinite number of other machines, all of which don't necessarily have to be identical. This means that I don't have to spend even a second thinking about licensing and getting sued by the BSA. When I want to install a piece of software, VLC for instance. I don't have to open up a web browser, search Google for the author's web site, click the download link, wait, click the executable, click through the installer, and finally click on the application icon. I open up a window, type sudo apt-get install vlc and it does everything for me. In the mean time while that's working I am free to do other things. This is especially nice when I'm setting up a new system and I want to install three dozen programs. On Windows I'd spend an afternoon going to web sites, running the (non-signed) executables, and clicking through installers.

Power: I'm most productive when the distracting crap is swept away. Give me the simplicity and power of TeX over MS Word any day. Likewise for using vi and gcc rather than MS VS for my horrific excursions in C.

Applications: Your applications might not work on Linux, but the ones I use do, for the most part. I like Firefox and its many extensions. It's on Linux and it's fast. I like the Gimp because I don't have to pirate it just to fix redeye in photos (I'd love to see the number of home Photoshop users as compared to home license sales). It's on Linux and it's fast. I like to use Thunderbird when I want a native email client. It's on Linux and it's fast. I like to use TeX and LaTeX and LyX to compose documents. They're on Linux and they're fast. I like to use Pidgin to converse with folks around the world using the MSN, AIM, and Jabber protocols. It's on Linux and it's fast. I like to use VLC to watch movies. It's on Linux and it's fast. Did I mention that Linux is fast? Why pay £50-£200 when something that's free does everything I want? Most people don't need very much software that doesn't have a free equivalent.

Flexible: I have an easy time setting up systems for use as kiosks or other single-purpose machines. For instance, Mythbuntu gets me a working, fully configured media capture and playback system in about a half hour. I have a jukebox system in my house that I use to play music when I have houseguests. People are incited to pick a few songs and create playlists. It all runs on Xubuntu, but my guests would never know that. All they see is AmaroK running in fullscreen mode with the DPI settings cranked up to 150. Since it uses a robust database (MySQL) for its indices, it is able to search my 50+ GiB music collection quickly, even though it's only running on a 500 MHz PIII with 192 MiB RAM. Linux loves networks and makes lots of somewhat interesting tasks easy. It would take just a few minutes to set up a system by which all my local documents are archived to a remote server a few times a day. I could have it automatically back up an image of my system disk the same way, should I ever need it for recovery. I can easily access my computer remotely when I'm away from home and I don't have to worry about its security. I can have it send me emails when there's a problem. All of this stuff doesn't require a special "premium" version. It works with stuff that's either already installed, or 15 seconds away. An open, well-documented system like Linux is vastly configurable in this sort of fashion, even if you're not an expert sysadmin.

Philosophy: Some people ascribe to the beliefs and ideals of the FSF and Free Software (free-as-in-freedom) in general. They believe that it is beneficial and that the free philosophy provides extra incentive to promote software freedom. They would say that there is a moral benefit to using Linux and other FOSS.

Community: Some people like to feel like they are a part of something bigger than themselves. They like to collaborate and work on things they deem important. Heck, why am I writing this? I'd doing it because I like Linux and I'd like other people to like it as well.

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What software do you need that isn't available for Linux? Maybe we could help you discover near-equivalents and/or alternative workflows.

The software that I need that has no good equivalents on Linux are:
SolidWorks (3D relational modeling)
AutoCAD (2D absolute modelling (yes, I know AutoCAD has a 3D mode, but it sucks)
Various DirectX games (though I don't game much any more)

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Linux certainly isn't superior in all aspects, but it suits my needs and provides me with something of a hobby. I can use it to both buckle down and get work done, and as a plaything. :)
 
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I went from Vista to Ubuntu on my laptop mainly as I wanted to try it. Now it's all installed and I've played around with it I like it and it's staying. Everything I did on Vista I can do on Linux, using much less space and a lot quicker. Linux won't replace Vista on my main desktop or media pc until the gaming side is as good.

Billy, you say you use Adium. How? As I thought it was just for OSX?
 
I jusr prefer it as an OS. I can't help but feel restricted with any version of windows, because quite frankly, you are very restricted. I dislike Microsoft's attitude to users and even programmers/admins. I dislike the way they shape their market to their needs, and not let the market dictate the way technology should go, like it should be.

I absolute love Open Source, not just software, but the ideology that everyone shares knowledge, and if you want to make money from it, then you're free to do so, but don't do it by proprietry means, make money from providing a service. It's so much more.. friendly.
 
Personally I dual boot Vista with Ubuntu. Vista for gaming, and Linux for surfing and essaying. I find Ubuntu easier to navigate and quicker, while obviously Vista is pretty much a necessity for gaming, unless you're really comfortable with the drivers and Wine etc.
 
I use just linux and have done for quite a while. Cost was part of the reason but have open source code to learn from and make changes to is a huge pull for me and the biggest reason I use linux/open source.

Linux is far from perfect but its nice to have choice if nothing else.
 
It's the flexibility of Linux I love. If you need a server for a very specific purpose you can build a very minimal install that does it perfectly on a tiny footprint. If you need all the bells and whistles and everything in between you can do that as well.
 
The default SVGA video driver can often be the cause for that. Running an accelerated Nvidia one performance and quality has always been very good on PCs I've setup.
 
I use Linux for programming, writing and also the Internet, but I use windows for games. Basically it fulfils my needs and I love how customisable it is. I also love learning and the way I see it is that it might benefit me in the future as most companies in industry use Linux on their servers.

I'm also sick of Vista and people asking me to fix their problems so I just reply back saying "I don't use windows". :p
 
If you're particularly enamored with Xp's default fonts, why not set up your Linux installation to use them? Set it to use Arial, which is XP's default for most everything. I prefer OS X's font rendering so I tend to turn on all the sub pixel hinting and tell it that I want "best shapes".
 
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