What's the problem ?

audi-matt

audi-matt

audi-matt

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Hi chaps

This starts earlier in the year, basically my machine would fully boot up. It turned out to be the graphics cards, well I belive as I replaced the cheap graphics card to a r9 280x and the problems was solved! So thought nothing of it other than don't buy cheap parts

Fast forward to last month.
My asrock 990fx extreme 4 board started making 5beeps on start up and showing d6 error code on the debug.
I rma'd the card as I presumed it would be this as it was the problem last time.
I get the card back this morning along with a new case and same problem.

Now although the card wasn't replaced with a new one, I presume it was either fixed or nothing was wrong with it even though it went back to gigabyte for them to sort out.

Now the graphics card needs 600w and I have a 600w cooler master psu so could this be the problem, but I can't see it as the card and system has worked fine for 6months without a problem.

Other than this I can only think the board is at fault (owned it for 2 years)
I've heard pretty rubbish things about asrock aswell and the d6 error that's showing points towards the graphics card not being found.
I've tried different slots, with/ without the card, I've unplug all unnecessary parts to try and lower the wattage but to no avail!

This is twice in a year it's happened and I'm lost so any help would be good, do I look into getting a new mobo? I'm pretty confident the card is fine as overclokers and gigabyte wouldn't send it back if it didn't work.

I haven't got any spare parts such as a mobo to try the card and other parts in, and I'm skint since I've just bought the case.

The spec is in my sig but with a 280 r9

Enervating I want to upgrade to a corsair 1000w psu and a better mobo but I want to find the problem instead of just renewing a lot of parts


Thanks
 
How would I check the latest bios m? It dosent even let get to the bios screen?
I haven't updated the bios ever so maybe it is that??

The reason I wanted a 1000w psu was to make sure it wasn't running anywhere near its limit, as the current 600w psu I have must be working hard. I do oy have 1ssd and 1hdd, 3x 140mm case fans

I know everyone say check the gpu power, and yeah that in too, the 3 fans are spinning on the gpu, it's like a PCI connection issue.

I'm asking about if any of my mates will let me try a gpu swap with them to eliminate done things.

What would removing a ram stick do? I will try it by all means but I'm curious as the debug is pointing me towards a
 
Oops accidentally posted without finishing ^^^^^

D6 error means - no console output devices are found.

How would I update the bios if I can even get a video signal at all??
 
It might be still in the cupboard but I'm sure it was dead, as it was showing same problems as now, so I bought the r9 and it worked (I wanted a good gpu anyway ) the old gpu was a £30 one just to watch films on.

But if it is the gpu why has over clockers sent it back? It's still under warranty? Il be ringing them up today anyway so I can confirm this later

I will persuade my mate to lend me his or il have to buy another £30 gpu for now as emergency.

Ina different topic of love to spend some good money on my machine and maybe even go Intel, but it's a shame I can't ATM.
Short term il solve the problem, upgrade the mobo and psu and use the old parts to build a htpc.
I do wish I bought a savertooth or crosshairs v or ud5 instead of the corsair 750d

There is a computer shop up The road I might take my gpu in to try it out, and buy a cheap card too
 
Just been on the local computer shops website, il have to buy a £30 gpu which I ain't bothered about ATM it still has hdmi so that will do.
This way I can update the bios and see if the problem lies with the board and/ gpu then I've only spent £30

The gpu will be going back if it is the problem, if it's the board I guess il either have an excuse to buy a better board or be out of action until I can get one sorted although the girlfriend might not be happy me spending all this money at Xmas on my self hahaha
 
Thanks dude
It's a pain in a rear!

Btw so to update the bios (providing I get a gpu working)
Is literally the case of flash drive and entering the bios and updating from that, like the instructions in the asrock website?

Seems too easy to me, I will try it though, as my board is 2year old without an update so it's probably wise I do it.

Il let you's know how I get one though
 
Right update time!

Took to a local independent shop, and he got a display straight away on my r9! So it's not that, I've swapped some ram around and used single sticks etc and still nothing. So this has narrowed it down to either mobo or psu

The mobo is common for this error with no exact fix so this could be it, it may of happened due to a suspected power surge with no protector. Although I now have one

So I guess it's more investigation

And I've tried the first and second PCI slots
Il try the 3rd just to be sure but I'm not banking on it
 
Just tried the last PCI slot and nothing! So the the PCI slots much be knackered

Guess it's a new board really. So il get looking
 
It's a cooler master 600w
I don't know the exact model, but I've had no bother with it so far, it's only got 1 gpu cable
(6+2 6+2)

I have read a few things that the board is at fault with the d6 error, just didn't know for sure.
The psu work every other component fine, so Im guessing it's a mobo issue, if not il sell it lol
 
Karateyid said:
d6 The VGA could not be recognized. Please clear CMOS and try re-installing the VGA card. If the problem still exists, please try installing the VGA card in other slots or use other VGA cards.

That's the d6 message. Did you clear the cmos ? Guess anythings worth a try before outlaying any cash
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Yeah mate, the card has been tried in all 3 slots, the cmos has been cleared several times, ram has been swapped over and single stick used, the small battery has been removed and put back in, the graphics card has been checked at the local shop and it works.

I started a thread in the mobo section, and have found a decent board for £70 that will meet my needs, and is cheaper than I was going to spend.

I guess il try the cals again tomorrow
 
The model number is ta-600-asab
It's a gx lite model too

And cheers mate, I'm working iver te Xmas and that so il keep you in mind about the spare psu :)
Appreciate it, btw I'm in Durham now but work in Washington so it wouldn't be a problem
 
Thanks for the feedback, I knew it would be sufficient for my build and I got it keep costs down.
My old gpu was a non powered one cheap one only ran by the PCI slot.
My intentions were to eventually upgrade the whole build piece by piece eventually whisky keeping it running.

When I bought the 280 r9 I knew it would be pushed to its limits aswell, but the fact I rarely put my PC under heavy or even moderate Laod I thought it would be fine.

I am after a new psu anyway as I want a fully modular one. Would it be worth using a colt meter on the 12v rail and see if it's producibg what's it's meant to be ?
 
Il try that first and what if I used a miles connector to power the gpu since I have a adaptor

I know it's not the best practice but as a test it would narrow it down.
Then if it works I know what to buy, if it dosent I will try someone else's psu then take it from there.

See what funds allow too, as I really want a ps4 on Tuesday as an early Xmas present haha
Tbh I don't want much for the PC, only a new psu, maybe a new mobo, a corsair cooler so not a great deal.
 
westom said:
Too much wild speculation from observation not tempered by how hardware works.

Original post said a motherboard could not see the GPU. A d6 code says the motherboard could talk to a GPU using video mode 7 but not in other modes. Now a relevant concept. A defective motherboard can still talk to some GPUs just fine. A defective GPU can work on some motherboards. One PC trace on a motherboard routed too long can cause some GPUs to fail and others to work. Swapping says little other than some item can sometimes work fine.

Because so many computer assemblers have no electrical knowledge, then we tell them to install a power supply at least twice what is really needed. Most computers do not even consume 300 watts. So we tell you a 600 watt supply is required. Most computer assemblers must first learn to overwhelm their fears to be able to use a meter. That is just too difficult. Easier is to just say 600 watts are required.

Is the PSU sufficient? Watts says nothing about quality or integrity of that supply. Using a meter would have exonerated or accused something in the power system as defective. System that is more than just a PSU. Without those numbers, then nobody can say anything useful about power ... other than make sure the separate power cable from PSU to GPU is properly connected.

Does not even matter if a fan spins. Defective voltages will still spin fans. That is obvious to a fewer who solved problems using a meter. For example if that PSU to GPU cable is missing, a fan will still spin. And voltage from the PCI slot is big time reduced.

Clearly, a 1000 watt supply solves nothing. At 600 watts, is your computer also toasting bread? If not, then it is not consuming anywhere near 600 watts. But what each voltage is on each colored wire is critically important. That means a meter. Otherwise many GPUs may perform strangely - work today, fail tonight, work just find in the shop, etc.

Apparently your video card is incompatible with that motherboard. To say more means measuring voltages with a meter (a likely reason for failure and intermittent operation because the defect existed months or years ago). If a BIOS (no Operating System yet loaded) cannot put up text, well, we view things you do not have equipment for. Once those voltage numbers are seen by the fewer who know this stuff, then your know that slot on a motherboard is incompatible with that GPU. Nothing more.
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Il defiantly post the results of the tests up, I'm at work ATM on nights so it will be tmra night.
I believe your correct in everything your saying, and that I personally can't physically find the fault, I.e being it Intermitant, a compatibility issue, or an actually fault with a part.

I understand that my psu and board isn't exactly great but that's not here or there, as once I find the fault that part will be replaced. I hope it's the psu tbh as its a easier fix imo.

I appreciate all your help
 
Okay mate I get Ya

Well like you said its out of warranty so it doesn't matter wether it's broke or not I can't send it back lol.

Il still check it tonight, and see just exactly what figures is showing.
Il also try and run it via molex.

Thanks for helping me narrow this down

What sort of wattage/voltage should it be showing through the cable for the gpu? And which wires should I be checking ?
 
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