Whats this called?

ste_bla · 26 Mar 2008 at 19:54

Wet road move onto a roundabout and boot it and then you back end seems to want to go around faster than the front and the steering goes light.

Ive tried this on a few roundabouts and T-Junctions (so i know its not just a dodgy road) and it does it a lot. I dont remeber this happening in the last car so the questions are..

1) Whats it called?
2) Could tyres (improve/decrease) this?
3) Are some cars just prone to it via the design (say suspension?)

digisatman · 26 Mar 2008 at 19:56

driftaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Nathan · 26 Mar 2008 at 19:56

1 - oversteer
2 - Yes, decent tyres on the back
3 - Yes, 90's PSA cars with torsion bar on the back and any RWD car

and yes I love it

1CE · 26 Mar 2008 at 19:57

Lift off over steer .?

ste_bla · 26 Mar 2008 at 19:58

So better tyres on the back would reduce it, sweet. Just out of curiosity an omega (old one) would be FWD right?

nicRob · 26 Mar 2008 at 20:00

No, RWD

ste_bla · 26 Mar 2008 at 20:01

nicRob said:
No, RWD

Oh, so even if i spent out on new rubber it would still happen to some degree?

Psycho Sonny · 26 Mar 2008 at 20:08

or you could try and drive safely round a roundabout, only idiots boot it round a roundabout

spoonz · 26 Mar 2008 at 20:09

Yes it would.

dont fear it, embrace it

and maybe remove the lead boots

nicRob · 26 Mar 2008 at 20:09

To a certain degree yea, depending on how hard you accelerate, and what the surface is like - e.g accelerating gently in the dry you won't break traction at all, but floor it in the wet and the rear wheels will spin (causing the back to slide out, if on a corner etc)

Nathan · 26 Mar 2008 at 20:13

1CE said:
Lift off over steer .?

No. Just oversteer - he said when he boots it, not "lift off"

Bear · 26 Mar 2008 at 20:24

ste_bla said:
3) Are some cars just prone to it via the design

Yes RWD cars. Just dont be so heavy with your right foot, use decent tyres and you should be fine. I drive a car that is very well known for going sideways with quite a bit more power than normal aswell and I dont have the backend going sideways unless I want it to.

Ben M · 26 Mar 2008 at 20:26

Psycho Sonny said:
or you could try and drive safely round a roundabout, only old people don't boot it round a roundabout on occasion

ste_bla · 26 Mar 2008 at 20:27

Psycho Sonny said:
or you could try and drive safely round a roundabout, only idiots boot it round a roundabout

To be fair I didn't explain it to begin with the first time it happened I was driving normally and then I tried it while booting it with a supermarket roundabout (does that make me a chav wannabe?)

spoonz said:
Yes it would.

dont fear it, embrace it

and maybe remove the lead boots

Misses wouldnt see it that way!

Bear said:
..use decent tyres and you should be fine....

Do alloy tyres cost more than normal tyres or are they normal tyres?

jellybeard999 · 26 Mar 2008 at 20:36

ste_bla said:
Do alloy tyres cost more than normal tyres or are they normal tyres?

If they are the same size, they are exactly the same tyres, but alloys tend to be wider and/or of a larger diameter, hence more expensive.

Rich1988 · 26 Mar 2008 at 22:02

my car has a strut brace fitted to the back which stiffens it up which causes me to get the same thing quite a lot especially on off camber hills and roundabouts

Scania · 26 Mar 2008 at 22:19

ste_bla said:
Oh, so even if i spent out on new rubber it would still happen to some degree?

Yes.

ste_bla said:
So better tyres on the back would reduce it, sweet. Just out of curiosity an omega (old one) would be FWD right?

Bloody hell, you don't know which end the power is coming from? - No wonder you find roundabouts a bit, interesting! :eek:

Quality.

I smell a plant.

ste_bla · 26 Mar 2008 at 22:21

R124/LA420 said:
Bloody hell, you don't know which end the power is coming from? - No wonder you find roundabouts a bit, interesting!

Quality.

Bah does it mater (well as i found out yes..)

Also the front still turn the car ?? :confused:

Scania · 26 Mar 2008 at 22:22

ste_bla said:
Bah does it mater (well as i found out yes..)

Also the front still turn the car ??

Yes, thats why they are connected to the, wait for it......

STEERING WHEEL

Stop pulling our legs mate - you are, aren't you? :confused:

ste_bla · 26 Mar 2008 at 22:24

R124/LA420 said:
Yes, thats why they are connected to the, wait for it......

STEERING WHEEL

Stop pulling our legs mate - you are, aren't you?

LOL

As for the edited "plant" details I honestly didnt realise. I thought it would just be like a vectra but bigger?

Actually it makes sense now, the second day i had it I thought it was broken because it was reeving (floored it to see what it could do) but not going but then the front wheels didn't feel like they were spinning! Thought the clutch was breaking!