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Whats wrong with my PC? New card, worse problems!

weehamish

weehamish

weehamish

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Ok so i just got my 3rd 7850, went MSI this time.

The blue lines still happen at boot up but not as bad as the other cards, it fixes itself pretty fast, this is with a NEW HD also which i payed £60 for :\

In games its getting much lower FPS then the Gigabyte cards, even when clocked to the same clocks.

I dunno wtf is going on anymore! My GTX 285 can get better frames in shogun 2 then the 7850? How is that even possible?

BF3 was running max at 60 fps with the Gigabyte, now its dipping below 30 all the time!

Im so fed up out of 3x cards 2 were faulty and OCUK said they were, now the MSI one is blue lineing on boot up, this is new but similar to the other problems, see pic;



And my games are not worth playing since so bad FPS, how can the Gigabyte run BF3 at max then the MSI struggles like hell?! Ive ruled out PSU since it runs the GTX 285, ruled out HD since i got a new one, ruled out drivers since new HD. Tried new DVI cables no luck. Tried both PCIe slots ect.....

Im not buying a new motherboard if thats the next thing on the list!

If i RMA this one back i will try Nvidia 660? Extra money again, its went from £150 to £210 to £240 if i go 660! But i also thought the 660s were not as good? I dont really wanna go from a 285 to play in dx11 with the same fps as dx9.

I could have saved up and put £400 more for a brand new PC!!

Any one who can help me, please help me! Its close to xmas and im stressed to death because of all this bother.
 
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Have you tried the following

Card in another PC
Full reinstall of Windows/Drivers
A different DirectX11 card in your machine prefablely an Nvidia one (different drivers)
Try plugging the PC into a TV (to rule out the monitor)

If it is not that lot it could well be the motherboard.

Edit also have a look at the lead you are using to connect the card and monitor.
Also do you have any other electrical items/strong magnetic sources near your PC. (Im clutching at straws here).
 
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Thanks for reply,

Ive just got a new HD and installed windows 7 brandnew on it and still the same problems.

I cant try it in another PC since everyone i know uses Nvidia and wont let me.

Ive tried 3x these cards up to now so it could be DX11 related? Since my DX10 card works perfectly, its an Nvidia card btw.

Theres nothing near the pc except speakers and they are on the desk not the floor.

Im uses an Asus Rampage formula MB

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/Rampage_Formula/#specifications
 
I would try a new.cable and blow job the connector down for any dust. Looks like a bad connection. I very much doubt its the card, unless your PSU is damaging these cards somehow. What's your PSU?
 
I did change it same thing happens. I doubt its my PSU since it works with the GTX 285 and that draws a lot more power?

Its a 750W toughpower.

I dont think its the card either, it looks brand new apart from some scratches underneath the metal casing and it even smelled new too lol. But if the GTX 285 works perfect why wont this? They both use same 6 pin connecters but the 285 uses 2x instead of one :\
 
Looks like cold soldering, older graphic cards were "restored" by treatment in the 170 *C oven ;-) You've got extremally high level of unluck, RMA or swap card ASAP - IMO seller should give you some consolation prize, huh..
 
Heres a pic to show the scratches, it also has some minor marks on the PCB too would this affect it? The fans seem very wobbly too, is this normal for twin frozr? The WF card was solid as a rock.

Im still to get an unscratched card from OCUK, i dunno where they buy their stock but its terrible! Look like all refurbs!



I dont think its OCUKs fault, they have been very good with trying to fix my problems, but the cards they are sending are terrible! 5UB even contacted Gigabtye over the last 2 cards i think, they have 0 in stock now, so i wonder if they sent them all back as duds?

It may have more marks then this but i havent had a good look at it yet. Im getting really ****ed off with AMD now, but so many people are having good results, even people with q6600 so its similar to my system!
 
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x3 sounds like you've either have extreme bad luck or there is a common factor somewhere - your PC!

Do you have either a TV plug into or a laptop etc. with which you can test your monitor?

But if the old GTX 285 works, it sound like your PC doesn't like the 7850 for some reason. Have you tried clearing the CMOS in case there is some PCI-E option in the BIOS?

Looking at the link to your mobo, you have two PCI-E x16 slots, so have you tried it in the other one? Or for that matter if the GTX285 takes two 6-pin connections from your PSU, have you tried both? Or using a molex adapter?

GTX285 is 200W+ so the 7850 should be fine but maybe your PSU is not able to supply the full spec on just 6-pin connector and while the GTX285 uses more it spreads its load over two connectors.
 
arc@css said:
Motherboard bios update?
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Last bios update for that board was April 2010, I think I saw some other threads where some boards needed a new bios for their amd cards to work, one was a Gigabyte Z77 D3H, I think I saw some instances with MSI boards too.

It's a really old board - about 5 year old, maybe that has something to do with it?
 
Thanks for replys guys.

I have no TV with a DVI connection so cant test it but like i said the connections are new and the screen works fine with other card?

I have cleared the CMOS still same problem?

Yeah its in the other PCIe slot now, BTW when i put it in this slot it had to download the drivers again since it didnt recongnise the card? it had the drivers on the PC but windows never used them it downloaded plug and play drivers for the card which is very strange?

I know it doesnt look new in the pic but its looked the most new out of all 3 ive had so far lol?

I will try a MB bios update now? The board is only 2.5 years old not 5 lol.
 
Maybe it's a driver problem. I had something similar when I first installed my GTX 570. It plug and played some drivers and they conflicted with the pre-installed ones. I would try a full uninstall of drivers, a driversweep, and then a fresh install.
 
weehamish said:
I will try a MB bios update now? The board is only 2.5 years old not 5 lol.
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Well if it was me, I would update to the latest bios, don't update it using the Asus windows bios update, I've bricked an Asus board many moons ago doing it that way.

People had these boards back at the end of March 2008, so that's around 4 years and 7 months old, I'm suprised it's lasted that long. :)
 
How should i update the MB then? I have the bios file now, how do i back up the old bios file? Its all new to me, never had any problems before?

Also the board works everything else fine so its not damaged or anything.
 
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weehamish said:
How should i update the MB then? I have the bios file now, how do i back up the old bios file? Its all new to me, never had any problems before?
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put it on a memory stick (not in a folder, just copy it direct to the stick), boot to bios (press f1/del/f2 etc) with the stick plugged in and navigate to ASUS EZ Flash, run it and it will pick up the bios and do it all for you
 
Also... just load CPU-Z and click where it says 'Mainboard' - see what BIOS version is currently on it, before you attempt the bios update.
 
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