One of the best thing the govt can do to help wider adoption is to actually lower the BIK, but labour wants it the other way really.
When are you going fully electric?
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I already get a 0£ deposit brand new vehicle that I can pay out of my gross salary lol. BIK at 60 odd quid is hardly consequential.
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It’s very nice until you see this view:
Hmm I guess you mean the arrows as everything else looks ok.
I'm 50/50 on them as its quirky.
I wouldn't rule it out simply based on those lights for sure
Indeed and only really applies to company car people, who just buy cheapest rather than the drivetrain. FWIW our salary sacrifice is only for cars under 75g/km.
Quite the opposite IMO, they should abandon the BIK incentive for new buyers and introduce a more general incentive available to everyone and make more money available for domestic charging points to service those who don’t have a driveway.
They should also slap some punitive taxes on new ICE vehicles (including both initial and annual VED charges and BIK) to discourage their purchase.
I say this as someone who is currently benefiting from the BIK gravy train but I also recognise it’s massively distorting the market.
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I personally feel like I want to hold off for as long as possible! Not liking how it was being incentivised and now it feels like it's going to end up being punished. The joys of governments 
Ah yes kill EU auto industry even more by taxing ICE more
BIK drives lease and thus more 2nd hand cars for later purchase.
Tax break or grant like the initial govt run scheme means not many go into wider used market circulation?
But I also see govt do a rug pull like the proposed BIK rises. Get load of people lock into 3/4yr deal then rug pull half way in by hiking BIK.
Punitive tax on ICE car is absolutely necessary.
Used ICE cars will appreciate in value due to their taxation is frozen etc and there is no onset charge for buying second hand like you would do for new cars.I personally feel like I want to hold off for as long as possible! Not liking how it was being incentivised and now it feels like it's going to end up being punished. The joys of governments
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My Kona is eating electric since it went colder, but thinking back I bought it end of Jan just as the weather was getting warmer and me being precious with how long I would charge in the first month.
The charging curve slower in the cold as well with 2 peaks at 58kw instead of 1 peak at 77kw.
So now when it's a cold week like this week and last I need 2 charges per week at local Tesla. I went to the smaller one in the week (6 chargers) and bit of a queue for 15 mins, not helped by the weird position they have put them in makes it harder to queue and get out. I was lucky to get in straight away, the queue started 5 mins later. I may charge at the larger one to avoid that chance. So just 2 months of that to go!
64kw battery, usually charge to 80% but recently have been charging to 90% and then realised that's not going to make it to the end of the week. At least if I want to use cabin preheating and not have to worry about battery levels.
The charging curve slower in the cold as well with 2 peaks at 58kw instead of 1 peak at 77kw.
So now when it's a cold week like this week and last I need 2 charges per week at local Tesla. I went to the smaller one in the week (6 chargers) and bit of a queue for 15 mins, not helped by the weird position they have put them in makes it harder to queue and get out. I was lucky to get in straight away, the queue started 5 mins later. I may charge at the larger one to avoid that chance. So just 2 months of that to go!
64kw battery, usually charge to 80% but recently have been charging to 90% and then realised that's not going to make it to the end of the week. At least if I want to use cabin preheating and not have to worry about battery levels.
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Perhaps they should launch some compelling EVs and it wouldn’t be such an issue. No European made EV ticked all the minimum requirements at the time I got my Tesla. It was a choice between the American/Chinese mongrel or the two Korean options.
The Koren’s and the Japanese already are their lunch in ICE world anyway.
The Chinese are not really breaking into the European market as quickly as many predicted. MG are doing okay but I’ve barley seen any others on the road.
I’m not sure that changing the incentives away from BIK would stop cars entering the second hand market, which ironically is where most of the issues lie.
Company car drivers would still favour EV’s because they would still be materially cheaper to own and operate because of the punitive taxation I mentioned would also be applied to ICE cars. A more general incentive would encourage more private buyers which is still half the market and the take up of EVs there is tiny.
The government has already set out a BIK roadmap for the next 4-5 years. If you don’t see it coming, you’ve only got yourself to blame.
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The cybster looks nice, just the MG badge
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who cares what the badge says? if you like the car you like the car.
I love a bit of badge snobbery,.it makes for good 2nd hand prices
I think he's saying the badge looks good, but nothing else does.
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really? maybe you are right but it's not how I read it.
Hoping for a pre-xmas delivery
Nice, that'll be fun! Did they indicate how long it'd take before you'd get it?