When are you going fully electric?

blun said:
Why not buy a 2nd hand EV? It's a lot less risky than buying a 2nd hand petrol or diesel car.

Not sure on your budget but if you're not going to be doing many really long trips then something like a Nissan Leaf or a Renault Zoe would be worth looking into.

Remember that due to the running costs being so low, if you have a monthly budget you can afford to spend more on an EV than a petrol car because you'll be spending next to nothing on fuel / servicing etc..
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I'm a little concerned what state the battery would be in after being used, I'd need to look more into them...
 
rets187 said:
I'm a little concerned what state the battery would be in after being used, I'd need to look more into them...
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Depends on the car. Not all batteries are created equal either and the BMS's vary a lot. But even something like an old Leaf without a good BMS (notably cooling) has stood up fairly well.
Without being an expert I'd say probably lower chance of use related issues with an EV. Put an ICE in the wrong gear and over-rev it for example, or even not top of with the fluids
 
rets187 said:
I'd need to look more into them...
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100% this, you cannot know too much about new technologies when you are spending your own hard earned cash. You need to spend a good amount of time understanding what makes something good or bad, then filtering out all of the noise, and totally ignoring anything you read in the mainstream media be that positive or negative.
 
Journey said:
100% this, you cannot know too much about new technologies when you are spending your own hard earned cash. You need to spend a good amount of time understanding what makes something good or bad, then filtering out all of the noise, and totally ignoring anything you read in the mainstream media be that positive or negative.
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Very true, mainstream media tends to leave a bad taste
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Check out the Tesla Yoke Video. Looks crazy!

https://osultan.smugmug.com/Cars/Refresh-Model-S/n-jF42tn/i-hK6JNrk/A
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I can't really see the point of this. About the only advantage I can fathom is that it might improve visibility of the instrument cluster. Personally I've never driven a car where that's a problem, and although I have heard of cars where it is, surely adopting a yoke is more unintuitive and inconvenient than just...designing the cluster better?

Am I missing something, or is this just another gimmick?
 
rets187 said:
I'm a little concerned what state the battery would be in after being used, I'd need to look more into them...
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I know we don't do trading on this forum, but I wanted to let you know that of the two EVs I own, that the Renault Zoe will be getting replaced this year.

FYI - Zoes are really great small cars. The handling is soft and wobbly, but like all EVs it's far nipper than pretty much anything around town, and is just fine at motorway speeds. The spec is good, and the battery in our 4-yr old Zoe hasn't noticeably aged. I would recommend them if driving dynamics and speed aren't a priority
 
Obliter8 said:
I know we don't do trading on this forum, but I wanted to let you know that of the two EVs I own, that the Renault Zoe will be getting replaced this year.

FYI - Zoes are really great small cars. The handling is soft and wobbly, but like all EVs it's far nipper than pretty much anything around town, and is just fine at motorway speeds. The spec is good, and the battery in our 4-yr old Zoe hasn't noticeably aged. I would recommend them if driving dynamics and speed aren't a priority
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Ill check the zoe out, the designs pretty nice too.
Do u still get roughly the same amount of miles after 4 years?
 
Conscript said:
I can't really see the point of this. About the only advantage I can fathom is that it might improve visibility of the instrument cluster. Personally I've never driven a car where that's a problem, and although I have heard of cars where it is, surely adopting a yoke is more unintuitive and inconvenient than just...designing the cluster better?

Am I missing something, or is this just another gimmick?
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It’s a marketing gimmick. That’s it, nothing more, nothing less, seems to be working as people are talking about it a whole lot. You can just have a normal wheel if you want.


I think what’s more interesting is the no stalks and having those functions on the wheel/yolk itself
 
Greebo said:
And that is exactly why they should have been banned. Its fine in a F1 car where full lock is 140 degrees. Not fine when its two full rotations of the steering wheel.
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Full lock is less than one rotation, like a normal car?

Edit: I should say that I don’t disagree but your conflating two thing which aren’t the same to make your point ;)
 
Tenzo said:
Unfortunately, has to be a new purchase on Company scheme.



Would have to be the main family car, based on the “cost” of lost car allowance. Based on two kids, plus a dog, points to SUV.

The iPace ends up being expensive on the scheme, so unfortunately rules it out



The eTron, just can’t seem to get over the looks. The Q4 eTron is a potential but it’s not very quick
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Thanks for the reply. I mean, people used to get by just fine with a nuclear family without SUVs not so long ago! At the very least, go get a Tesla test drive - they're hands-free and you can experience just how different the tech is. I've had a Performance for 18 months, and they're something else (and plenty roomy), although I can see that the saloon will be an issue if the dog needs to go in the boot!


Can you install a wall charger at home?
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
It’s a marketing gimmick. That’s it, nothing more, nothing less, seems to be working as people are talking about it a whole lot. You can just have a normal wheel if you want.


I think what’s more interesting is the no stalks and having those functions on the wheel/yolk itself
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I thought as much. Guess it's there to appeal to budding Michael Knights.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Full lock is less than one rotation, like a normal car?

Edit: I should say that I don’t disagree but your conflating two thing which aren’t the same to make your point ;)
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Sorry its one full rotation in that video. Too much for a yolk steering wheel IMO. Its way more than F1 cars or even high performance road cars.
 
I’d be amazed if it doesn’t still turn…

Hello Is that you Elon? …FSD is miles away. I’ve tried it, had periods of working well but soon turns into an utter frustrating experience even on well marked roads with limited speed differentials.
 
yes Musks lane following wasn't spotting some cyclist scenarios, and, the other videos on self-parallel-parking capability weren't quite matching human capability.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
I’d be amazed if it doesn’t still turn…
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I can't see how it wouldn't turn. You'd still need to be able to regain control of the vehicle at any point so if FSD has a wobbly moment and you need to step in mid way round a roundabout that would take some rapid recalibration on the drivers part to suddenly think "OK, the wheel (sorry, yoke :rolleyes: ) is straight but I've actually got about a quarter turn of lock on".
 
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