When are you going fully electric?

chanjy said:
Bit late to this discussion! Popped in as I've seen some good VW ID3 deals going around. The Family 60 kwh spec is around £26k new (not sure of lead times though)

We have a Zoe ZE40 bought in early 2019 and apparently it's worth about £200 less than when we bought it which has got me thinking it might be a good time to cash in... does anyone have an ID3 and any idea of the real world range? Will go and check out the SpeakEV forum too as that seems to be the best place usually to get actual user experience.
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When I enquired with my local dealer a week or so ago, they were saying delivery around beginning of September. Also check out https://www.id3forums.co.uk/ for user experiences. I'd also suggest you check one out and if possible, get a test drive. My wife wasn't a fan, thought it was "basic" inside.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Two reasons, because people will pay it and used values will drop, it’s just a question of when and not if.

In reality there are very few cars actually for sale in the whole U.K., only about 90 and demand is high. Although I’m not sure who is buying them when you can just get a new facelift one for not much more.

I suspect we will start seeing a little movement there when the Model Y comes out. That said it probably will not be a huge amount as the model Y is going to start at like £55k and not really have a used market for a few years.
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Yeah I suspect its actually the low BIK rates that are keeping the lease numbers high along with the adoption rate. I saw a stat the other day that EV uptake was 65-70% fleet/company car which makes sense.
 
sparkymark75 said:
When I enquired with my local dealer a week or so ago, they were saying delivery around beginning of September. Also check out https://www.id3forums.co.uk/ for user experiences. I'd also suggest you check one out and if possible, get a test drive. My wife wasn't a fan, thought it was "basic" inside.
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If you want basic then you should check out our Zoe :D

Agree though it would be mad to order one without actually testing it right?
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Two reasons, because people will pay it and used values will drop, it’s just a question of when and not if.

In reality there are very few cars actually for sale in the whole U.K., only about 90 and demand is high. Although I’m not sure who is buying them when you can just get a new facelift one for not much more.

I suspect we will start seeing a little movement there when the Model Y comes out. That said it probably will not be a huge amount as the model Y is going to start at like £55k and not really have a used market for a few years.
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Yeah i don't understand the used model 3 market at all, why is anyone paying 38k for a car when you can get a brand new one with more range etc for only 3 grand more, it just doesn't make any sense!
 
Rilot said:
Bacuase you can have the used one right now. Order a new 3 today and you have to wait.
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That doesn’t really make sense.

You can order a new one today and get it next week if they have the spec you want in stock. Up until about 2 weeks ago they had pretty much every combo ready to go.

You are only waiting about 6-8 weeks to get a new one on the next shipment at the moment if they don’t have what you want in stock.
 
Re the used EV I’d be in the Ioniq camp as well (biased as I have one!)

28Kwh one is a gem imo, you’ll get 140-150 miles in the summer and about 110-120 in the winter in my experience. Battery charges 65-70kw from about 10%-80% on a rapid (much better than the newer model).

Premium SE has enough toys for most (heated and vented seats etc).
 
Recently (very) joined the EV club albeit still with a petrol Fiesta ST as our second car / fun run around.

I wanted something with a decent real world range and plenty of toys (and needed to convince my wife that and electric car will work for us) thus went with a 1 year old Hyundai Kona 64kWh Premium SE in Red / Orange:

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Not done huge mileage but absolutely loving it so far.

Took a trip to my Aunt and Uncle in Minehead at the weekend, roughly a 80 mile round trip, and it returned 5.6m/kWh driving normally with traffic - the hills on the way back brought my average down a bit.

Started the ball rolling on switching over to Octopus Energy with and interim tariff prior to the switch to Octopus Go. Also looking at the various options for a home charger (any that I should avoid?).

First charge at home via the granny charger / trickle charger went fine (scheduled via the car to use off peak) so that will work in the interim until a proper charger is installed.

Will need to do more miles before doing a proper write up but so far it is looking like a positive choice.

Oh an the hilarity of ~295lb/ft of torque from 0 RPM through the front wheels pleases my inner child! :D
 
oweneades said:
Recently (very) joined the EV club albeit still with a petrol Fiesta ST as our second car / fun run around.

I wanted something with a decent real world range and plenty of toys (and needed to convince my wife that and electric car will work for us) thus went with a 1 year old Hyundai Kona 64kWh Premium SE in Red / Orange:

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Not done huge mileage but absolutely loving it so far.

Took a trip to my Aunt and Uncle in Minehead at the weekend, roughly a 80 mile round trip, and it returned 5.6m/kWh driving normally with traffic - the hills on the way back brought my average down a bit.

Started the ball rolling on switching over to Octopus Energy with and interim tariff prior to the switch to Octopus Go. Also looking at the various options for a home charger (any that I should avoid?).

First charge at home via the granny charger / trickle charger went fine (scheduled via the car to use off peak) so that will work in the interim until a proper charger is installed.

Will need to do more miles before doing a proper write up but so far it is looking like a positive choice.

Oh an the hilarity of ~295lb/ft of torque from 0 RPM through the front wheels pleases my inner child! :D
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Do you mind me asking how much you paid for it? I've been looking at these as they are quite compact being an SUV. In fact I think it's the smallest sized SUV EV at 4,180mm x 1,800mm and gets a decent real world range.
 
thewanted said:
Did that include any motorway driving? If so, that's excellent efficiency.
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No motorway as it was A39 all the way from Street to Minehead (via Bridgwater).

I did drop my wife off at work on Friday which incorporated some A303 and the average was around 5.2 with that route (again hilly).

Overall I am working on trying to maintain within the 4.5-5.5 range where possible but understand that various factors will impact the efficiency.

TheOracle said:
Do you mind me asking how much you paid for it? I've been looking at these as they are quite compact being an SUV. In fact I think it's the smallest sized SUV EV at 4,180mm x 1,800mm and gets a decent real world range.
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It was approx 30k which is around the going rate from what I could tell (for the model, age, condition and mileage).

Not the cheapest option but it was both a head and heart purchase. Won’t go into full details but some of the money used was gifted to me from my dad who passed away at the end of last year. I needed a car for my new job and I knew he would have approved of such an option.

You can get 2018 models from around 25k with higher mileage from memory and there is also the lower capacity battery option which I assume would also be cheaper (not seen one for sale for comparison though).

In terms of size it looks a lot larger than it actually is. It isn’t much bigger than our Fiesta albeit quite a bit taller and a little wider. I should note that rear leg room is a little tight if you are relatively tall. Boot size is fine and there are plenty of tie down points. Annoyingly the charge cable (type 2) comes in a bag with Velcro straps but the sides of the boot are not covered in carpet. You can ‘stick’ it to the boot floor but ours came with a rubber boot liner which removes that option.
 
I bought a used Zoe about 3 years ago. An electric rollerskate isn't everyone's cup of tea but it was pretty cheap and it's been great for my needs. I'd love one of the more modern, longer range, EVs but its just not in the budget so I'll make do with what I've got for now
 
definitely becoming more affordable
brittannia one on hotuk ... so about £90p/w including electricity, using his 5miles/Kwh - just add insurance&tyres
In office I'd be spending £50p/w petrol for daily 50mile round trip;
even cheaper for the smaller~40Kw batteried one.

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jpaul said:
definitely becoming more affordable
brittannia one on hotuk ... so about £90p/w including electricity, using his 5miles/Kwh - just add insurance&tyres
In office I'd be spending £50p/w petrol for daily 50mile round trip;
even cheaper for the smaller~40Kw batteried one.

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5 miles per kWh is a good dream. As someone who has a Tesla and owned others which are on the forefront of efficiency, if I drive in the most efficient manner, I’d get 4 miles per kWh. Real average is between 3-4 miles per kWh.
 
jpaul said:
definitely becoming more affordable
brittannia one on hotuk ... so about £90p/w including electricity, using his 5miles/Kwh - just add insurance&tyres
In office I'd be spending £50p/w petrol for daily 50mile round trip;
even cheaper for the smaller~40Kw batteried one.

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Would be worth dropping the annual mileage and seeing how much penalty charge is against setting at 10k too. Sometimes it works out cheaper to just pay for 6k and then pay the extra for over miles.
 
kitkat9933 said:
5 miles per kWh is a good dream. As someone who has a Tesla and owned others which are on the forefront of efficiency, if I drive in the most efficient manner, I’d get 4 miles per kWh. Real average is between 3-4 miles per kWh.
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well tesla isn't alone anymore ... I had cross-checked his estimate eg.


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e: afterthought -
kona's not going for the performance card, and, with the resized drivetrain has saved 300 odd kg versus a tesla, so similar to a comparison between economy on a 320i and 335i, say, you expect some bonus.
 
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Starting to seriously think about going electric. The low cost of running is starting to appeal compared to my old diesel.

I was wondering though, what’s the situation with servicing? Do you still need yearly services with an electric given that there is no ICE? And what’s durability like? Do most electrics last as long as a decent ICE car?
 
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