Slight curveball but ended up ordering an ex-Demo e-Niro 4
Looking forward it getting it - will update when it arrives!
Assume it was on a good deal if you are getting it ex-demo? Many miles on it?
When are you going fully electric?
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Assume it was on a good deal if you are getting it ex-demo? Many miles on it?
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What are they going to do for people that don't have their own off road parking - where parking outside on the street where there's space? Talking terraced housing, many blocks of flats. Then you have those who have more cars than they can fit on their driveway? For example, with more adult children living with parents, they have cars too. A colleague lives with a sister and parents. They have 5 vehicles between them. Two of them are a BG van as dad works for them and a large car for taking 2 large Labradors.
I live in a flat with dedicated parking bay. The housing association will eventually install a electric power point at the top of the bay. Then the flats at the nearest to the road are social housing and they don't have their dedicated bays,
I live in a flat with dedicated parking bay. The housing association will eventually install a electric power point at the top of the bay. Then the flats at the nearest to the road are social housing and they don't have their dedicated bays,
Not sure if a good deal or not. This one was £33.5k with 1500 miles
I did like the kit on the 4 though and the only one that qualifies for the grant now is the 2 trim level which isn't as nice
There's quite a few ex-demos knocking around as it looks like the MY20 demos all arrived around August last year and now coming up for sale.
I already know people like this who charge at work a few times a week and it does them all week. A lot of the misconceptions (not aimed at you) are that you have to charge a BEV car every single night and that the grid would not cope.
There are ways to plan for this kind of thing but councils are still stuck in the past. If we end up with no new ICE cars being sold from new 2030 the current system will need to start changing now. Here in Northern Ireland the infrastructure is an utter joke and that will not change any time soon. The only thing going for EV owners here is that Northern Ireland is small, so even EVs with ~200 miles real range can get anywhere and back in one charge.
- The reality is that new housing and business park developments need to be taking this into consideration with dedicated EV parking bays.
- Shopping centres and supermarkets should provide chargers for customers.
- Workplaces need to be providing EV chargers for employees
- Park and Rides need to have destination chargers and plenty of them.
- EV destination chargers could be installed on terrace streets but that would rely on people not being dicks about sharing.
There are ways to plan for this kind of thing but councils are still stuck in the past. If we end up with no new ICE cars being sold from new 2030 the current system will need to start changing now. Here in Northern Ireland the infrastructure is an utter joke and that will not change any time soon. The only thing going for EV owners here is that Northern Ireland is small, so even EVs with ~200 miles real range can get anywhere and back in one charge.
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Range of solutions, from as you suggest flat owners and freeholders can install chargers in car parks, councils can’t give permission for installs on streets. The. You also have chargers at Work places, public car parks, amenities (supermarkets etc.)
You can get charge points that build into existing street furniture like lamp posts, you can install posts and you can even get them to be flush with the pavement and on rising bollards.
There is no one size fits all solution but a range of options and choices will be used by those who don’t have it. That said properties with off dedicated street parking suitable for a home charger will further go up in value once we hit critical mass.
As for 5 car households, I really don’t see the issue. Your talking about an edge case of an edge case if you need to fully recharge 5 cars daily from a home supply. I used to live in a 5 car household and we’d have needed two chargers to make it work.
nice - so when are the first mach-e deliveries for the UK roads ? and the coloiur is - red liked the advert. ?
watching the C4 guy martin 'fastest 1/4 mile ev' tesla drivetrain powered beetle,
- it's a bit of a farce the engineering involvement guy has in the wheel/suspension ? upgrades on the (already electric) car, and, from the burn-outs it is unclear if they forgot to transplant the tesla traction control - which should have helped.
- the van (albeit released 2 years ago) he drives, has style, if vw manage to do similar with a camper electric revival, that should similarly steal the show
Introducing the all-new, all-electric Morris JE - the new van about town.
watching the C4 guy martin 'fastest 1/4 mile ev' tesla drivetrain powered beetle,
- it's a bit of a farce the engineering involvement guy has in the wheel/suspension ? upgrades on the (already electric) car, and, from the burn-outs it is unclear if they forgot to transplant the tesla traction control - which should have helped.
- the van (albeit released 2 years ago) he drives, has style, if vw manage to do similar with a camper electric revival, that should similarly steal the show
Introducing the all-new, all-electric Morris JE - the new van about town.
Unsure when guy Martin recorded his 10.6 second run but the rimac nevera can do the 1/4 in 8.62 seconds.
There's a few million quid difference though.
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Tesla plaid can do 9.1 quarter mile, quite impressive really considering the price and practicability, there is a channel called Tesla Plaid and the guy races some very loud modified cars, if this is the future I'm all for it. Silent and 100% instant torque.
They are already on the roads.
Ordered red. For some reason, other than the GT and First Edition models, the available colour pallet is rather muted. Whites, Greys, Blue (but might as well be grey) and Black.
Charging in the wild this week whist on 'staycation' (ugh, I hate that term).
I hopped on to a genie point ccs yesterday and a tesla turned up next to me and used the type 2 7kw. As soon as he began charge, my rate dropped (unsurprisingly by about 7kw). Slight annoyance that the units can't deliver their advertised rate when being shared.
Also, I understand people's frustration out in remote areas. This was the only ccs rapid charge in the area, so if it was out of service it could cause you a real bother.
I hopped on to a genie point ccs yesterday and a tesla turned up next to me and used the type 2 7kw. As soon as he began charge, my rate dropped (unsurprisingly by about 7kw). Slight annoyance that the units can't deliver their advertised rate when being shared.
Also, I understand people's frustration out in remote areas. This was the only ccs rapid charge in the area, so if it was out of service it could cause you a real bother.
So what services do people subscribe to for charging, if any?
I have the option to join BP Pulse (6 months free, thereafter £8 a month), but the network doesn't look that great locally. 99% of my charges will be at home, or at work, so paying a standing fee doesn't seem to make sense.
There's also a free option to join Polar instant, but that looks to be the same as BP Pulse - so I am just confused now.
On the plus side, I get a discount at Ionity for longer journeys for first 12 months of ownership.
I have the option to join BP Pulse (6 months free, thereafter £8 a month), but the network doesn't look that great locally. 99% of my charges will be at home, or at work, so paying a standing fee doesn't seem to make sense.
There's also a free option to join Polar instant, but that looks to be the same as BP Pulse - so I am just confused now.
On the plus side, I get a discount at Ionity for longer journeys for first 12 months of ownership.
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BP is pointless to subscribe to with their recent changes to pricing structure. I cancelled mine.
In regard to GeniePoint station: the rate has to drop, 50kW based on cable from the grid supply, otherwise begs the question why can’t it share at 143kW when all are connected for… or 100kW on CCS when solo for example.
Atleast it shared charge rather than spitting the first guy out.
In regard to GeniePoint station: the rate has to drop, 50kW based on cable from the grid supply, otherwise begs the question why can’t it share at 143kW when all are connected for… or 100kW on CCS when solo for example.
Atleast it shared charge rather than spitting the first guy out.
Don't go near BP - it's way over-priced and they only work half the time. I have the Apps ready and set up for Geniepoint, Instavolt and PodPoint (but usually use Tesla if I can). I think Shell is supposed to be OK as well, but I've never used. I have had to use, but try and avoid, Electric Highway and CYC.
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way over priced yet cheaper than all those?
It comes as part of the Mercedes me charge, so will use it as needed but won't sign up to the premium one for £8 a month. That's also how I get a reduced price on IONITY premium for 12 months, I guess also useful.
I will get a pod point at home, so imagine I'll hook into their network somehow as well.
Need to look at tariffs for home as well.
I will get a pod point at home, so imagine I'll hook into their network somehow as well.
Need to look at tariffs for home as well.
I thought Mercedes give you a card which you can use across multiple providers already and it gets charged to your Mercedes account?
BP is cheaper than all of those and IME works pretty flawlessly. Perhaps I've just been lucky.