When are you going fully electric?

jpaul said:
Does dubai average temperature - not have a particular impact on ev range their , with both battery and cabin cooling needs ?
surprising petrol prices haven't been subsidised there better .. if anything like russia where profits from exports get used to that end.

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seems a significant uptick in tv ev advertising (social media too?)- now seeing genesis and toyota's beyond zero (cool branding) , renault e tech.
... still waiting to see a tear-down of the renault/nissan platform, which is giving cars as lightweight as tesla m3, without the likes of mega-castings (no one else seems to have invested in that tech yet)
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Good point, that did come into my mind when I posted this - probably is the continuous climate control that is draining the battery. I leased a VW ID3 for a week with the glass roof, and whilst it was great for views for the passengers etc it was roasting inside. Whilst these guys will be the last to turn off the petrol pumps I feel, I dont think they can subsidise much due to OPEC?
 
ev range at higher temperatures - I had subsequently seen this https://www.geotab.com/blog/ev-range/
which suggest 40C range would be like 0C, a symmetric range curve around maximal 21c/70


inflames said:
Passed a couple of Cupra Borns today.
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haven't seen one in the flesh,
renault e tech similar mid market segment and size/power , nicer dash to my mind than vw binnacle/android automotive, and, lighter on the wallet, and road.
Pity nissan don't seem to be using the shared platform outside of a full SUV (but, if you are uk nissan employee and can get a cheaper ev I wouldn't sniff)

Match : la Renault Megane E-Tech affronte la Cupra Born !​

 
Jonnycoupe said:
ramble ramble ramble… m3 doesn’t have castings and Volvo are doing similar.


Anyway just drove from midlands to Manchester. 95miles and still got 66% battery. This warmer weather is great for a motorway trip even with AC did 3.1miles/kWh. Maybe it was that service it just had (brake fluid/cabin filter only after 22k miles) :p
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AC uses a fraction of the power of heating so even on the warmer days the total power drain is way lower.

What kind of speeds are you doing on the motorway to see 3.1mi/kWh? Sorry to say your figure has made me feel better about the 4.1mi/kWh I got on a long journey recently that I was originally disappointed about, a lot of which was on the motorway at about 65mph :D
 
squerble said:
AC uses a fraction of the power of heating so even on the warmer days the total power drain is way lower.

What kind of speeds are you doing on the motorway to see 3.1mi/kWh? Sorry to say your figure has made me feel better about the 4.1mi/kWh I got on a long journey recently that I was originally disappointed about, a lot of which was on the motorway at about 65mph :D
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That's an I-Pace vs a Kona though... apples and oranges
 
squerble said:
AC uses a fraction of the power of heating so even on the warmer days the total power drain is way lower.

What kind of speeds are you doing on the motorway to see 3.1mi/kWh? Sorry to say your figure has made me feel better about the 4.1mi/kWh I got on a long journey recently that I was originally disappointed about, a lot of which was on the motorway at about 65mph :D
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I’m not sure fraction of the power is a fair statement compared to a heat pump providing heat.

I cruise about 74. Truth be told a good portion of the M6 is speed variable limit and was 60, even at midnight coming south it was 60!? Just no stopping for charging meant it’s no drama for a pretty long trip. I went to see The Killers for about £4 of electricity in a performance car - no apologies needed. Imagine a 40mpg 150bhp car compared to 400bhp doing 30mpg…
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Not really but it could be handy if you live in London. I still think I’d rather have a Twizzy.
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Why do you have to live in London? This would be ideal for the lady across the road from me who has a Yaris, she drives about 1.5 miles a day each way to work, parks the car then comes home. She has her shopping delivered every week at the same time, and never goes anywhere else in it other than the local Spar as she is too lazy (unhealthy) to walk there.

The Ami is a great solution for village pootler's, and people who use there car as literally short range transport from A to B and back again.
 
The Ami is the step up from electric scooters, for the people who have a driving license.
Once the law is passed on electric scooters (any small cheap electric transport device) the uptake is going to be massive.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
They are still relatively low volume products though which is a shame as generally the demand for them has exceeded supply for quite a few years now.
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Exactly though, why subsidise when already demand is high versus supply. Better to use the tax for people who need it. Eg a tax cut on fuel who cant afford an EV but still need to run a car.
 
Journey said:
Why do you have to live in London? This would be ideal for the lady across the road from me who has a Yaris, she drives about 1.5 miles a day each way to work, parks the car then comes home. She has her shopping delivered every week at the same time, and never goes anywhere else in it other than the local Spar as she is too lazy (unhealthy) to walk there.

The Ami is a great solution for village pootler's, and people who use there car as literally short range transport from A to B and back again.
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Because as soon as you need to go out of most villages or towns you are onto 60mph roads and the Ami tops out at 30 mph down hill with a tail wind.

No one really buys are car for the journeys they do everyday, they base it on the once/twice a month journeys. Hell sometimes it’s on a once a year journey or less.

It’s fine for a second car that never needs to leave local roads but even then most second cards still leave local roads every now and then.

In your example, she’d be stuffed when she wants to go to the garden centre. ;)

Simon said:
Exactly though, why subsidise when already demand is high versus supply. Better to use the tax for people who need it. Eg a tax cut on fuel who cant afford an EV but still need to run a car.
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I wasn’t suggesting they should be subsidised, more of a general groan that manufacturers are still not building them quickly enough despite demand being there long before covid impacts.

I’m sure the likes of Toyota could have put out a great Leaf/Zoe competitor a decade ago and made that segment really interesting. The quality of their products is great, the company has just had its head in its *** for over a decade.
 
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