When are you going fully electric?

meeeh

Work scheme opened today, nothing great that I can see.

I could get a Niro EV for £350/month fully maintained or the ID Buzz at £500/month, those are what stood out, everything else seemed a bit meh for the money. When I checked the scheme 6 months back it had a number of Polestar deals, but they all seem to have gone. The Cupra Born was there, maybe £380 a month.

Might just stick with my diesel for a bit longer
 
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For what it’s worth, the Nero EV is a pretty good car and £350/month fully maintained isn’t an outrageous amount of money for one.

That said I assume that is salary sacrifice and not be the total cost once pension losses are considered.
 
Yeah, its a tough one. Order now or wait and see what else appears on the list, if anything. Its not a bad option I agree, fully maintained. I need to confirm pension impact on the scheme before anything else
 
I need to confirm pension impact on the scheme before anything else
That should be pretty simple if you have a regular pension.

It’s just your employer and your own contribution (E.g. 6% each, 12% in total) on the gross amount of salary sacrificed (not the net cost).

If you are public sector, see my post in the thread about salary sacrifice for a BMW iX.
 
It's not particularly relevant to the UK - I saw it in the context of Americans evacuating Florida because of the hurricane - but EVs apparently have big problems during evacuations. You have a lot of people all travelling at the same time and while refuelling with petrol takes only a few minutes and you can carry extra cans of fuel, recharging an EV takes an extended time so there will be lengthy queues at recharging points when time is of the essence. Further, because of the need for air conditioning in Florida, EV batteries will discharge even when the car isn't moving (e.g. in a traffic jam) so their range is much reduced.
 
It's not particularly relevant to the UK - I saw it in the context of Americans evacuating Florida because of the hurricane - but EVs apparently have big problems during evacuations. You have a lot of people all travelling at the same time and while refuelling with petrol takes only a few minutes and you can carry extra cans of fuel, recharging an EV takes an extended time so there will be lengthy queues at recharging points when time is of the essence. Further, because of the need for air conditioning in Florida, EV batteries will discharge even when the car isn't moving (e.g. in a traffic jam) so their range is much reduced.
The AC won't really consume too much battery power. Range will not reduce by too much. Remember there are still 12v batteries for some car functions.
 
The AC won't really consume too much battery power. Range will not reduce by too much. Remember there are still 12v batteries for some car functions.

It still reduces the range, especially if the car is stuck in a jam. More importantly, you still have the problem of massive queues at EV charging points taking huge amounts of time.

Anyway, it doesn't really affect the UK.
 
It's a fair point about there likely being an issue with charging queues. Although in slow moving traffic an EV will be efficient and tests have shown they use very little at standstill. A 2 year old post with regards to a model 3 has usage at 0.5kWh for just being on and 0.5kWh for air con on auto in 30°C, set to 20°C. Maybe more or less efficient now. So assuming 4 miles per kWh, that's 4 miles of range lost an hour.

It is a bit harder to find the equivalent for an ICE car. I see some details suggesting a 1litre engine will consume around 1/4 of a gallon of petrol per hour with AC on, so extremely roughly 10miles lost per hour on a very small engine.
 
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That’s true the transport option isn’t optimised for natural disasters….

EV you can probably leave home full. ICE look what happened even here when everyone topped up “just in case” and those lorry drivers weren’t called Ian. If the power goes you haven’t got fuel or power anyway though and if your house is at risk bigger things to worry about than queue times?
 
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Unsuitable for hurricane evacuation. Bit of a weird thing to bash EVs for tbh

What’s next nutcases? :p
I believe that in the event of a zombie apocalypse knocking out the power supplies they are not very good to use as bug out vehicles. It is the same for self-defence against zombies - a chainsaw is good, but make sure it is not an electric one!

In all seriousness, I take my wifes's ID3 to deliver daughter fro her golf lessons and I usually sit in the car for over an hour with it 'on' (AC, etc in summer, carplay on, etc), and I lose perhaps one mile from the range in that time.
 
I find the range estimate in electric cars absolute random number generators. So sensitive to change in environment. A bit like your ICE car estimation being over inflated when you come off of a long motorway stretch.
 
I find the range estimate in electric cars absolute random number generators. So sensitive to change in environment. A bit like your ICE car estimation being over inflated when you come off of a long motorway stretch.
Average mi/kwh compare to kwh left. That’s how it’s worked out with the a heating/ancillary fudge factor. My range goes from 230 to 130 if I put the heating on full (5.5kW)
 
I believe that in the event of a zombie apocalypse knocking out the power supplies they are not very good to use as bug out vehicles. It is the same for self-defence against zombies - a chainsaw is good, but make sure it is not an electric one!

In all seriousness, I take my wifes's ID3 to deliver daughter fro her golf lessons and I usually sit in the car for over an hour with it 'on' (AC, etc in summer, carplay on, etc), and I lose perhaps one mile from the range in that time.
That's why you fit solar panels to the roof :D
Ps. If the electric is out then petrol station pumps won't work.
Most cars have anti syphon so good luck sucking.
 
I believe that in the event of a zombie apocalypse knocking out the power supplies they are not very good to use as bug out vehicles. It is the same for self-defence against zombies - a chainsaw is good, but make sure it is not an electric one!
Texas proved this last year with the floods, which were accompanied by power cuts, and unhappy ev owners ... there again, TWD were using some horses.
 
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