Was thinking the same thing unless they bought a very small battery city runabout EV like a Mini. Anything with 50kW and above battery will make that trip at 80% SoC, in the dead of winter towing a caravan at 80mph
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Was thinking the same thing unless they bought a very small battery city runabout EV like a Mini. Anything with 50kW and above battery will make that trip at 80% SoC, in the dead of winter towing a caravan at 80mph
You realise it was sarcasm right?
It is in reference to typical EV denier nonsense to keep claiming “the range isn’t there yet”. Then when showed EVs can get well over 200 miles or even 300 miles, they keep moving the goalposts until you eventually concede “no an EV would not do that”. Then they get to smugly declare “see EVs are not there yet”.
Had a builder friend say unless EVs get over 200 miles of range they are useless to him as he had to travel 150+ miles per day. I pointed out there were many that could do that. He responded with “I mean in winter”, to which I replied, “so did I”. The scraping of goalposts was unbearable until I eventually conceded that no, an EV will not tow a loaded trailer 200 motorway miles in a typical UK winter. When I asked if he often did this, he went very quiet.
It is in reference to typical EV denier nonsense to keep claiming “the range isn’t there yet”. Then when showed EVs can get well over 200 miles or even 300 miles, they keep moving the goalposts until you eventually concede “no an EV would not do that”. Then they get to smugly declare “see EVs are not there yet”.
Had a builder friend say unless EVs get over 200 miles of range they are useless to him as he had to travel 150+ miles per day. I pointed out there were many that could do that. He responded with “I mean in winter”, to which I replied, “so did I”. The scraping of goalposts was unbearable until I eventually conceded that no, an EV will not tow a loaded trailer 200 motorway miles in a typical UK winter. When I asked if he often did this, he went very quiet.
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Yeh I got that. Just not many cars could do that anyway.and to be honest it wasn’t scarcasm. You actually think most EVs could do that. They can’t…
80miles from 80% is normal and not seriously wrong for a mini for example.
I don’t get why people also get an issue with people commenting on range If you rely on public charging then 200mile each way trips ARE annoying and expensive. I’ve got a model 3 LR for weekend and driven 200mile to Plymouth. It’s currently empty as I’m struggling to find somewhere to charge if for less than 60p /kWh and I need my mate to give me a lift to the charger
80miles from 80% is normal and not seriously wrong for a mini for example.
I don’t get why people also get an issue with people commenting on range If you rely on public charging then 200mile each way trips ARE annoying and expensive. I’ve got a model 3 LR for weekend and driven 200mile to Plymouth. It’s currently empty as I’m struggling to find somewhere to charge if for less than 60p /kWh and I need my mate to give me a lift to the charger
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No, it really was sarcasm and I know most EVs won’t do that. Frankly if you or anyone else are struggling with the range of your EV in those scenarios, then I have zero sympathy. Do some god damned research for the actual driving you will typically do and for the costs. If you charge at home the rest of the year the costs of charging on the road is not prohibitive.
Also if you rented or own a M3 LR then you are hardly broke enough that 60p kWh will break the bank. Now that part wasn’t sarcasm, just some blunt harsh facts.
Also if you rented or own a M3 LR then you are hardly broke enough that 60p kWh will break the bank. Now that part wasn’t sarcasm, just some blunt harsh facts.
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It’s seeing things from others point of view. Rather than just arguing everyone else is wrong because they have a different situation.
The point is at 60p/kWh a diesel is cheaper to run and doesn’t have issues with waiting to charge…. For many people this is a factor. It isn’t for me most the time as I can charge for lower which covers most MY journeys. Nothing about looking for sympathy. I neither Ownor rent the mentioned car. But it’s one of the longest range cars available at the moment. I have a cupra born and an ICE car fwiw
Sorry forgot we have to be EV evangelists to post about real world EV experience
The point is at 60p/kWh a diesel is cheaper to run and doesn’t have issues with waiting to charge…. For many people this is a factor. It isn’t for me most the time as I can charge for lower which covers most MY journeys. Nothing about looking for sympathy. I neither Ownor rent the mentioned car. But it’s one of the longest range cars available at the moment. I have a cupra born and an ICE car fwiw
Sorry forgot we have to be EV evangelists to post about real world EV experience
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This is not about seeing someone else’s “point of view”. This is about someone using a hammer when they really needed a screwdriver. I am not an EV evangelist for pointing that out. I’m just not an idiot who would go on a 400+ mile road trip in an EV (when they had an ICE available) and then complain about the cost and inconvenience of public charging.
You have literally went out of your way to make things difficult for yourself to save a few quid. Then decided EVs and public charging is a failure. It’s not the EV or public charging that has failed, it’s your **** poor planning and stubbornness.
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Nah I’m not complaining. You are confused with your own narrative.
I own an EV and have access to many more. Which also I get free charging with. It would be wrong to say this is a normal situation. However I can appreciate that for others then moving from a diesel to a car with only 200-250mile range and no cost of running benefit, if relying on public chargers, and having to wait to charge, doesn’t make much sense does it.
Also my ice is a 4.0 V8 so I tend to not use it for longer trips. Even though it only has a 250mile range
Massive irony calling me an idiot to do such a journey and yet calling out people who think an Ev can’t do 200miles as idiots. Make your mind up
I own an EV and have access to many more. Which also I get free charging with. It would be wrong to say this is a normal situation. However I can appreciate that for others then moving from a diesel to a car with only 200-250mile range and no cost of running benefit, if relying on public chargers, and having to wait to charge, doesn’t make much sense does it.
Also my ice is a 4.0 V8 so I tend to not use it for longer trips. Even though it only has a 250mile range
Massive irony calling me an idiot to do such a journey and yet calling out people who think an Ev can’t do 200miles as idiots. Make your mind up
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Both can be true, you can be an idiot for taking an EV on a 400 mile road trip, when you also have an ICE on the drive. Then complaining about the EV infrastructure and costs.
You can also be an idiot for buying a short ranged EV that will be regularly used for 80 mile commutes. Then complaining EVs suck because you failed to do proper research.
They are not mutually exclusive scenarios and you’d need to be an idiot not to understand that.
You can also be an idiot for buying a short ranged EV that will be regularly used for 80 mile commutes. Then complaining EVs suck because you failed to do proper research.
They are not mutually exclusive scenarios and you’d need to be an idiot not to understand that.
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So 80% is about 180 miles, few normal journeys & it's quickly down to 120 or so.
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I went to test drive the ipace with the wife and lad today. a superb car and I think one way or another an electric Jag will be on our drive within the next 3 months .
was impressed with the sales person she was nice and not pushy at all (she admitted I seemed to know more about the specs than she did )
they offered me £3800 off if I finance it but could pay it off after 30 days and also install a free pod point. over all then that will allow me to look for a car 5k more expensive than what I was looking at and also will have piece of mind of 2 year warranty from marshalls. i don't really want a pod point charger. I have a solar and battery system so a zappi is better. but free is free so......
1 car tickled my fancy.... a hse black edition in red with all the toys. only snag is it had the 22 inch wheels and ideally want 20s (did have air suspension tho) and also it was red not blue.
in its favour tho only 20k miles Vs over 40k in the car I may go going to look at tomorrow, that 2 year warranty vs.... 90days I think and on top of that I really don't fancy a 2.5hr each way trip tomorrow.
was impressed with the sales person she was nice and not pushy at all (she admitted I seemed to know more about the specs than she did
)they offered me £3800 off if I finance it but could pay it off after 30 days and also install a free pod point. over all then that will allow me to look for a car 5k more expensive than what I was looking at and also will have piece of mind of 2 year warranty from marshalls. i don't really want a pod point charger. I have a solar and battery system so a zappi is better. but free is free so......
1 car tickled my fancy.... a hse black edition in red with all the toys. only snag is it had the 22 inch wheels and ideally want 20s (did have air suspension tho) and also it was red not blue.
in its favour tho only 20k miles Vs over 40k in the car I may go going to look at tomorrow, that 2 year warranty vs.... 90days I think and on top of that I really don't fancy a 2.5hr each way trip tomorrow.
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Had another car to go view today.
M5 > M6 > M54 >A5 > A49 into Rybrook BMW in Shrewsbury.
Then the opposite to come home...
Stopped for Costa on the way home, Didn't even charge (left home on 100%)
Got home with 100 miles of range..
Those that still scoff at EV's still don't work in todays world just don't seem to have a clue what they are talking about..
Also spent 99% of the time not actually driving and letting autopilot do it all, which it also did perfectly well in bank holiday traffic and active variable speed limits.
Had a few double takes from other drivers while I sat there drinking coffee looking at them through the side window and not driving the car while smurking
M5 > M6 > M54 >A5 > A49 into Rybrook BMW in Shrewsbury.
Then the opposite to come home...
Stopped for Costa on the way home, Didn't even charge (left home on 100%)
Got home with 100 miles of range..
Those that still scoff at EV's still don't work in todays world just don't seem to have a clue what they are talking about..
Also spent 99% of the time not actually driving and letting autopilot do it all, which it also did perfectly well in bank holiday traffic and active variable speed limits.
Had a few double takes from other drivers while I sat there drinking coffee looking at them through the side window and not driving the car while smurking
Soldato
Unless you were in a Mach E, which you weren’t, I’m not sure what you were doing is legal, hence the looks…
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Yeah and it tells you to hold the wheel within a few seconds. To be honest not sure autopilot is actually any better than lane assist on motorways. Around towns etc it’s useless. But again we see people lying to make it sound better than it is.
The cupra autopilot is miles better than the Tesla for stop start driving. The Tesla over acclerates then has to brake hard in traffic. VW MEB system is a lot smoother. Best active cruise I’ve experienced so far
The cupra autopilot is miles better than the Tesla for stop start driving. The Tesla over acclerates then has to brake hard in traffic. VW MEB system is a lot smoother. Best active cruise I’ve experienced so far
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But you aren’t an idiot and you drove what an hour each way ?Had another car to go view today.
M5 > M6 > M54 >A5 > A49 into Rybrook BMW in Shrewsbury.
Then the opposite to come home...
Stopped for Costa on the way home, Didn't even charge (left home on 100%)
Got home with 100 miles of range..
Those that still scoff at EV's still don't work in todays world just don't seem to have a clue what they are talking about..
Also spent 99% of the time not actually driving and letting autopilot do it all, which it also did perfectly well in bank holiday traffic and active variable speed limits.
Had a few double takes from other drivers while I sat there drinking coffee looking at them through the side window and not driving the car while smurking
Smirking kind of sums up most Ev owners too.
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Yeah, saw a tool in a Tesla texting or browsing on his mobile while the car was on self drive. Even though Tesla self drive is nothing special you still have Tesla drivers falling for the hype. Even Tesla state that self drive requires full driver attention at all times.
He also had that look of “what’s your problem” without even a hint of self awareness that “my problem” was that he was putting lives at risk.
just over 1.5 hrs each way without stopping.
Not if you keep one hand on the steering wheel and rest it on your knee,
Agree Autopilot is dog**** when not on motorway and I never use it in those circumstances as I actually like "driving" on normal roads. Its not touted to be useful and is not meant to be used in those circumstances yet. It can't even go round tight winding corners without drifting wide and getting in a hissyfit about taking control immediately... Why, not because of the car so much but by regulations not allowing it to steer enough or fast enough because "safety"