When buying speakers..

My old Creative MegaWorks 250D speakers were TERRIBLE compared to my 2 x 75 watt tanoy sensys with a marantz amp.

In the end 1 of the speakers blew up so i scrapped em and bought some "decent" hifi speakers.

The tanoy's are beyond ANYTHING pc speakers can produce.
 
I spent about £200 on 4 dennon speakers and about £150 on 2 60watt subs, for my hifi. But my 4.1 surround sys that ive had for about 5 yrs on my pc still sounds better. And you can get much better speakers then my creative 4.1s nowadays :confused: I thinking about getting the Z-680 or the Z5500 speakers
 
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im not suprised. denon dont make any decent budget speaker that i know of and a decent sub will cost twice what you spent on your 2, unless you built them yourself. I spent £130 in the driver for my subwoof which i built, and its powered by a £200 denon amp, not that i paid £200 for it:p
 
speedy2004 said:
I spent about £200 on 4 dennon speakers and about £150 on 2 60watt subs, for my hifi. But my 4.1 surround sys that ive had for about 5 yrs on my pc still sounds better. And you can get much better speakers then my creative 4.1s nowadays :confused: I thinking about getting the Z-680 or the Z5500 speakers
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Well, I must sell my hi-fi and replace it with some Creative speakers then :D

Seriously dude, I've got an old Creative 5.1 set - Desktop Theatre DTT2500 (Cambridge Soundworks no less) which cost me £200 at the time and were the top of the Creative range then, and they're complete crap compared to my hi-fi.

There could be a million reasons why the Denons you had didn't sound good. Were they recommended to you by someone who knew his stuff? We're you using them with a quailty AV receiver/amp which matched up well with those speakers? Did the AV receiver even have enough juice to power those particular speakers? Did you set them up on proper hi-fi stands? Were the stands mass filled and spiked? Did you position them right? (2m apart, 2m from your listenning position) Were you running them just off a PC soundcard? All hi-fi will do with a crap source is show up how crap your source really is.

Maybe they were just rubbish, I don't see Denon get recommended very often, especially the budget stuff. Maybe they did sound better but you prefer the Creative because they have a bass heavy sound and you don't have the ears to pick out the extra detail from the hi-fi speakers.

It could have been anything really. You can't write off all hi-fi gear based on such a limited experience.
 
Hi-Fi gear lasts longer and is more flexible too.

I'm using an old NAD3020i through the power-amp stage in, and a pair of old Wharfedale Diamond Pro speakers as monitoring in my little home-studio and, considering how old they are (must be 12 or 13 years now) and how little I spent on them at the time (£35 for the amp, £70 for the speakers in Richer sounds) they sound just fine.

I wonder how long a pair of PC speakers would last in comparison?
 
I bought a Aiwa xr-m98 with seprates for about £200, and heres a pic,
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But the speakers where rubibsh, they destorted at mid volume, so I got 4 if these
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I could have the volume at max without no distortion at all and it sounded much better too

Then I got 2 eltax 60watt subs
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they really bought the base to life

But I need a 200watt sub, cos when the hifi is any louder then half volume the subs get distorted

Ive got the speakers in the four corners of my room ubove the doors.. I would have had bigger speakers accpet the doors get in the way. Dam Doors :mad: :mad:

But still the pc sounds better, but at high volume my hi-fi takes over.
 
That's a crap Aiwa midi system, that is not hi-fi seperates. Expecting that cheap little thing to drive 6 speakers is total madness, it's designed to drive 2. Also hi-fi speakers should be on stands, not fixed to the walls/ceilings.

What you should do is sell two of those Denon speakers and both subs and the Aiwa system, get a real hi-fi amp, then get some quality stands with top and bottom spikes, sand fill them, and position them parallel to each other 2 m apart, and half a metre from rear and side walls, then listen from 2m away.

Then you'll get to hear how those Denon speakers should sound. You're totally ruining their sound in so many ways.
 
maybe thats why the pc sounds better.. I would have huge speakers on stands if i could put them anyway, and if the doors went in the way, the hifi is 30watts per channel with a sub out socket aswell. The 4 speakers are 50watts each,, and to be honnest I love the look of my hifi, it looks more exspensive then it is, or it dose to me :D

I think I'll just get my pc sounding great with the Logitech Z-680 or Z-5500,, cos cant have any decent sized speakers cos the doors, or even have them on stands,, My room is big, but doors in the wrong place. :mad: :mad:
 
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eltax subs are also crap. majorly crap. They dont do anything a subwoofer is designed for - sub-bass. Their atomic subs has high pass filters that kick in at just over 30hz which honestly for a subwoofer is ridiculous.
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That might be the reason why I have to have the subs amps on full, for some decent bangs and rumbles... So will the logitechs sub be much better then the eltaxs?
 
speedy2004 said:
I think I'll just get my pc sounding great with the Logitech Z-680 or Z-5500,, cos cant have any decent sized speakers cos the doors, or even have them on stands,, My room is big, but doors in the wrong place. :mad: :mad:
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didnt stop me lol

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and yeah, most probably that's why the logi sub sounds better.

I bought a Aiwa xr-m98 with seprates for about £200, and heres a pic,

But the speakers where rubibsh, they destorted at mid volume, so I got 4 if these I could have the volume at max without no distortion at all and it sounded much better too

Then I got 2 eltax 60watt subs they really bought the base to life

But I need a 200watt sub, cos when the hifi is any louder then half volume the subs get distorted
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Dont ever go by the wattage of a sub. Ive got 2 12" subs powered by a 2x100w amp (denon incidently, but they make good budget amps, not speakers:p) and there's enough pressure at frequencies to feel the brick walls resonating. Before that i was using a 2x35w creek amp to drive them. Even that was pretty damn good.
 
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Nice setup and cool speakers mate.

ppl say,, if you have tall floor standng ones with about 3 or 4 sized speakers in the box You have diff sized speakers concentrating on one part of the frequency spectrum (ie seprate speakers for the high, middle or low pitch sounds and a sub for the very lows) causing higher sound quality.



When I get the logitech sound system and a new sound card for my pic,,,it will be the best sound quality Ive every heard. You've heard much better sound quality then me I know...I jus thought cos the logitech speakers are THX certified, I thought you couldnt get much better quality?Appantly a jet engine is 120db, and the logitech z-5500, and z-680 I think can produce 115db. At that volume you will loose a awful lot of quality and prob blow the sub up if you kept it at that volume for long periods. Anyway its all about quality not how loud the thing goes.
 
THX doesn't really mean anything quality wise sadly. It's just a marketting gimmick. Plenty of seriously average speakers get THX certification.

I think you should go for the Z5500 btw, most people are very happy with them, and if you team them up with a good soundcard like an X-Fi, they'll probably be the best thing you've heard, even if they won't match up with proper hi-fi gear. Hi-fi gear is obviously far more expensive though if you're talking about 5.1. Get the Z5500 and sell the rest (the 4 Denons, the 2 subs, the Aiwa system etc) on ebay.
 
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