When can you say you're a "Web Developer"?

[Dj_Jestar]

Just need to remember NathanE is a dinosaur programmer

Web base UI or no, software development is software development. Are the likes of Bob Martin no longer software developers, just because everything they do is now for the web?

Though the irony is shown by NathanE here... clearly NathanE isn't aware of what is possible with a system that has a web front end, making him the one lacking in knowledge instead of those he criticises!

 

[HungryHippos]

I think you should only be able to class yourself as a Web Developer/Designer if you can happily say you are able to work with customers to fulfill their Design/Developer needs with confidence. The actual class of customer shouldn't matter too much, if you're doing the work, satisfying your clients and getting paid I think you are either there or on your way there. Whether you are developing for Standard customers whose needs are simply to have a functional website, or an Enterprise client whose needs may be much broader in scope such as E-Commerce, Database backed solutions etc.

I have an internal ASP.NET site I wrote, which uses HTML/CSS and some backend stuff with MS SQL Stored Procedures etc. I would not class mysefl as a Web Developer/Designer though.

I would simply say I have dabbled with the technologies that are available. I have no real interest in taking up Web Design/Development full time so for me that's good enough.

 

[NathanE]

Just need to remember NathanE is a dinosaur programmer

Web base UI or no, software development is software development. Are the likes of Bob Martin no longer software developers, just because everything they do is now for the web?

Though the irony is shown by NathanE here... clearly NathanE isn't aware of what is possible with a system that has a web front end, making him the one lacking in knowledge instead of those he criticises!

What is your problem? Do you try to insult every developer you meet that perhaps doesn't hold ASP.NET development in as high regard as you clearly do?

For a generic "software developer" it is merely another framework, of the dozens of others he/she has to contend with on the average day. It's perfectly fine that some people like to specialise in it and not much else and then call themselves "web developers". But hiring managers will always treat such people with caution if searching for a role that is less than 100% web development.

I realise some people don't like this. But that's how it is. I sat in on countless interviews last year and the number of people that were stumbling all over themselves even by the 3rd technical question was just terrible... the absolute vast majority of them all prominently pushed their web and ASP.NET credentials. The short list in the end was almost entirely of people that clearly weren't pushing themselves from the start to be purely web development oriented. Yes that's just an unscientific observation but it is strong enough IMO for opinions to be formed around. At least it was for me as I experienced it first hand.

 

[Dj_Jestar]

My problem is your blanket discrimination and constant belittling of "web developers". Your "experience"/bias against them has even got you turning your nose up at developing for the web itself which is just ridiculous.