When do we think 65" OLED's will drop in price?

Richdog · 31 Oct 2015 at 07:16

Does anyone have an idea when Samsung will get their new generations of OLED out? Only buy Samsung due to their amazing UK on demand services and DLNA smoothness.

the wopster · 31 Oct 2015 at 07:37

Richdog said:
Does anyone have an idea when Samsung will get their new generations of OLED out? Only buy Samsung due to their amazing UK on demand services and DLNA smoothness.

Not for a long time yet, nothing is planed for CES 2016 my guess would be back end of 2017 at the earliest. the version of OLED that samsung used (RGB over LGd's WRGB) didn't work, if I remember rightly only 25-35% of panels that came off the production line were of usable quality(LGd have that well over 80% now) I also read somewhere that 60% of those TVs that were produced have now failed let me say they haven't failed due to bad electronics they would fail by getting clusters of dead pixels.
Samsung aquired an American OLED printing company's technology about 24-18 months ago so would most likely still be in the R&D stage.

Participant · 31 Oct 2015 at 09:01

woppy101 said:
The Panasonic is cream of the crop of ALL TVs available today including the LG OLED, is it £3000 better? That is debatable. The one place OLED struggles at the moment is just above black 0-5 IRE and the Panasonic is far superior to the LGs in that department here is a little quote from bumtious a respected calibrater over on avforums

"This CZ950 is far better at its guesswork than the LG's between 0 and 1 ire, to put it simply the set can guess 1000 points where the LG950 can guess 500 points and the LG960 guesses 250 points."
"That means that with the Panasonic the pixels are shifting these subtle luminance levels half as much as the LG950 which is why with poor bit depth content the LG looks to have more "digital turbulence" in this area just above black and the LG950 is much better than the LG960."

Here is the thread for the Panasonic so you can decide for yourself if it it worth the extra money or not , I have the 55" lg eg960 and if the Panasonic came in 55" form I would have it over the lg.

https://www.avforums.com/threads/pa...0-owners-and-discussion-thread.1988908/page-2

To the average punter I'd imagine this difference is marginal? Especially in the context of the price delta you mention. If that's all the Panasonic has over the LG, then it'll need to plummet in price before it becomes a proposition vs. the EF950 surely.

the wopster · 31 Oct 2015 at 09:14

Participant said:
To the average punter I'd imagine this difference is marginal? Especially in the context of the price delta you mention. If that's all the Panasonic has over the LG, then it'll need to plummet in price before it becomes a proposition vs. the EF950 surely.

You can see the build quality and picture quality and processing is better on the Panasonic but is it £3000 better I'm not sure, me personally if I had the extra £5300 I would buy it but that's just me.

Mal X · 31 Oct 2015 at 23:06

it's the same 4K panel as the LG, but Panny has vastly superior processing power/ technology (whatever you call it)

the Panny OLED will be a similar scenario to the old Panny Plasma Vs the LG Plasma, because if you ever saw them side by side, the LG looked rubbish in comparison and the same will happen again

Rofflay · 1 Nov 2015 at 09:58

The pioneer team did Kuro no? They also have some black level voodoo sauce. But what also attracts me most and someone mentioned HDR being too bright is no one sat down and did a calibration.

A Panny OLED 42+ would have THX mode which would have everything setup for ya including optimized voodoo. That is why i would pay for the panasonic OLED.

Vimes · 1 Nov 2015 at 10:41

I read a while ago about the potential longevity issues at the moment with OLED's. Has that now been resolved....?
Something about blue phosphor etc, might have got that wrong.

But the issue suggested that the quality and vibrancy of the picture would deteriorate very quickly.

413x · 1 Nov 2015 at 12:27

I would expect for the vast majority the panny isn't worth it.
If you could justify it you'd probably have enough disposable income that the price difference is inconsequential and you'd have it now and not need to wait.

If you haven't got it now I suspect the price difference can't be justified

Personally I can't justify over 2k on a TV
II wouldn't really notice day to day 2k vs 3k.

Id always put that towards a car that a TV. Or a holiday for example
I'll stick with my plasma until I'm happy with the price

Amp34 · 1 Nov 2015 at 16:05

Vimes said:
I read a while ago about the potential longevity issues at the moment with OLED's. Has that now been resolved....?
Something about blue phosphor etc, might have got that wrong.

But the issue suggested that the quality and vibrancy of the picture would deteriorate very quickly.

Yes, they use a white LED and put blue film over it IIRC.

Rofflay said:
The pioneer team did Kuro no? They also have some black level voodoo sauce. But what also attracts me most and someone mentioned HDR being too bright is no one sat down and did a calibration.

A Panny OLED 42+ would have THX mode which would have everything setup for ya including optimized voodoo. That is why i would pay for the panasonic OLED.

Or save thousands by getting a calibration expert to come in and calibrate the LG!

ChrisD. · 1 Nov 2015 at 17:23

Just had mine calibrated by Steve Withers. Noticeable improvement, the image looks so much more natural. Well worth the £200.

Vimes · 2 Nov 2015 at 09:27

Amp34 said:
Yes, they use a white LED and put blue film over it IIRC.

Or save thousands by getting a calibration expert to come in and calibrate the LG!

Thanks for that, great that they have overcome that problem. My GT50 Plasma still looks good though....!