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When is Volta going to be released?

Mayh3M

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With the 1080 Ti looking to come out in Spring, is Volta even going to be released this year?

I'm looking for more power than what my 1080 offers at 3440x1440 but I also want a cool and quiet experience that only hybrid and water-cooled cards can offer. Given how abysmal the aftermarket 1080 launch was, the AIO 1080 Tis are unlikely to be available until the end of the year, in which case it might be better for me to wait until Volta is released.

But when do we think it's actually going to be released?
 
2018 always has been on Nvidia roadmap.

Only thing for 2017 is a pascal refresh with slightly faster clocks.

Poor year fro graphics cards tbh
 
the TitanP is much faster than 1080 and probably 10 to 20% faster than the up coming 1080Ti, and it's already out, why dont you pick one and water cool it.
rumors have Vega release in few months with some luck it should be a good 4K GPU also sitting between 1080 and TitanP
 
Looking at an old roadmap Pascal, didn't exist on it and is part of the reason I think it'll come sooner than the usual gap between generations. Also reckon NVidia will be keen to improve on DX12 performance sooner rather than later which may only come with Volta.
If 2018 then I reckon fairly early. The 1080 was released in June 2016 I think so reckon end of March at the latest for a Volta **80 card. Will probably be completely wrong though :).

If the Ti comes in APril that's still a long wait and anyone who afforded a TXP is laughing really as they've had lots of time using the best card available before the budget version appears similarly those who have picked up a 1080 have done well before it's beaten without paying over a grand.
 
Greebo said:
2018 always has been on Nvidia roadmap.

Only thing for 2017 is a pascal refresh with slightly faster clocks.

Poor year fro graphics cards tbh
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I think you will find that it was originally a 2016 time-frame on the 2013 road-map when volta first appeared.
 
Mauller said:
I think you will find that it was originally a 2016 time-frame on the 2013 road-map when volta first appeared.
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+1, I agree with Mauller.


Volta was scheduled for Q3 2016 since 2013 and pushed back for 2018 (possibly Q2) in October.
Pascal was last moment decision, considering when it was announced.
 
Greebo said:
Yeah but once it slipped and became 2018, they put pascal in the middle.
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It never slipped Volta* wasn't and isn't aimed at GeForce despite what people generally assume (that isn't to say we'll never see Volta in consumer cards). Amongst other factor being stuck on 28nm so long has kind of upset the progression of things.

Mauller said:
I think you will find that it was originally a 2016 time-frame on the 2013 road-map when volta first appeared.
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Its a misconception - at the presentation they talked about Volta as a "future" process and didn't specify it in a timeframe or that it actually came directly after Maxwell - they actually talked in vague terms in regard to what came immediately after Maxwell - if you look at the slides you'll notice there isn't a date there even though it falls into the slot for "2016".


* There has been some renaming, etc. which confuses things as well.
 
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Panos said:
+1, I agree with Mauller.


Volta was scheduled for Q3 2016 since 2013 and pushed back for 2018 (possibly Q2) in October.
Pascal was last moment decision, considering when it was announced.
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entirely due to the failed 20nm process and the delay of 16nm and 10nm. The Voltas architecture was ready but if you cant fasb iut yiy hgsve to wasit until a process maturesd enough. Nvida cant control that. Pascal brings some of Volta 's improvement s to the table early.
 
Rroff said:
It never slipped Volta* wasn't and isn't aimed at GeForce despite what people generally assume (that isn't to say we'll never see Volta in consumer cards). Amongst other factor being stuck on 28nm so long has kind of upset the progression of things.



Its a misconception - at the presentation they talked about Volta as a "future" process and didn't specify it in a timeframe or that it actually came directly after Maxwell - they actually talked in vague terms in regard to what came immediately after Maxwell - if you look at the slides you'll notice there isn't a date there even though it falls into the slot for "2016".


* There has been some renaming, etc. which confuses things as well.
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indeed therre is no confirmation that Volta is really aimed at thr Gerforce line. The only thung that is clear it is aimed at HPC and oakridge supercomputer.

i have suspected nvidis eould divererge their HPC parts from the geforce line. Not thst thry eould be totally different, lots of dhared architecture. we already see the first step with Pascal with The GP100 and GP102
 
D.P. said:
entirely due to the failed 20nm process and the delay of 16nm and 10nm. The Voltas architecture was ready but if you cant fasb iut yiy hgsve to wasit until a process maturesd enough. Nvida cant control that. Pascal brings some of Volta 's improvement s to the table early.
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One of the crucial factors is the perf/watt envelope for one of the biggest projects it is being developed for - which if you do the maths has some interesting implications and they couldn't have even got close to it on the original 20nm never mind 28nm.
 
AlamoX said:
the TitanP is much faster than 1080 and probably 10 to 20% faster than the up coming 1080Ti, and it's already out, why dont you pick one and water cool it.
rumors have Vega release in few months with some luck it should be a good 4K GPU also sitting between 1080 and TitanP
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It's not THAT much faster, 20-30% over a 1080. It's hardly a worthy purchase over a 1080 either for £1179.

Better off waiting for a 1080Ti which will likely be within 5%. Or wait for Volta in 2018.
 
tyler_jrb said:
It's not THAT much faster, 20-30% over a 1080. It's hardly a worthy purchase over a 1080 either for £1179.

Better off waiting for a 1080Ti which will likely be within 5%. Or wait for Volta in 2018.
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My problem with Titan cards is you aren't guaranteed it to be the fastest card for long for what it costs, if it were for 2 years then maybe it'd be worth the money. But for most they never know if Nvidia will release a Ti card as little as a couple of months after it. Sure for people who don't care and have disposable cash then it's not going to bother them, but I'd seen so many posts of people complaining when they did that with the Titan to the 980Ti so soon after, making the Titan poor value.. obviously not everyone is swimming in cash or they wouldn't complain about it.
 
Not sure it matters if it's the fastest for x amount of time. This time around by the time a Ti hits people would have been enjoying the TXP's for 6 months and still probably will have more memory and performance too which future proofs them enough to give people more options on when to upgrade. A TXP bought on release could probably last someone playing at 1440p for example two years of fairly high graphics settings without having to tweak too many things downwards. A 1070 will probably need replacing sooner.
Of course they're not good value even before a Ti arrives and probably best bought on release day to get the benefit of the cost for longer :).
 
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Not sure it matters if it's the fastest for x amount of time. This time around by the time a Ti hits people would have been enjoying the TXP's for 6 months and still probably will have more memory and performance too which future proofs them enough to give people more options on when to upgrade. A TXP bought on release could probably last someone playing at 1440p for example two years of fairly high graphics settings without having to tweak too many things downwards. A 1070 will probably need replacing sooner.
Of course they're not good value even before a Ti arrives and probably best bought on release day to get the benefit of the cost for longer :).
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What is the point to spend £1200 on a card, which TODAY still has to make sacrifices on graphics quality when comes to 2560x1440?

And I will give you a good example. a GTX1080 @ 2190 is roughly 10% slower than stock TXP. And I know from fact, that at 2560x1440 many games do struggle pass the 90fps mark with high settings and keeping only 2AA.

Hell, I can name a few that are stuck on the 70s range. So £1200 is A LOT of money for a card full stop. Especially when you can beat its performance, albeit with SLI/CF but for half the money in some instances

TXP is terrible value for money, regardless if it has a whole 18 months of life in it.
 
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Panos said:
What is the point to spend £1200 on a card, which TODAY still has to make sacrifices on graphics quality when comes to 2560x1440?

And I will give you a good example. a GTX1080 @ 2190 is roughly 10% slower than stock TXP. And I know from fact, that at 2560x1440 many games do struggle pass the 90fps mark with high settings and keeping only 2AA.

Hell, I can name a few that are stuck on the 70s range. So £1200 is A LOT of money for a card full stop. Especially when you can beat its performance, albeit with SLI/CF but for half the money in some instances

TXP is terrible value for money, regardless if it has a whole 18 months of life in it.
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Not many 1080s do 2190mhz, like almost none.

Pascal Titan @2160p is nearly 50% faster than a 1080 in graphics heavy games.
 
AlamoX said:
the TitanP is much faster than 1080 and probably 10 to 20% faster than the up coming 1080Ti, and it's already out, why dont you pick one and water cool it.
rumors have Vega release in few months with some luck it should be a good 4K GPU also sitting between 1080 and TitanP
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Don't want to add in a custom loop. Simply cannot be bothered with the hassle for one card. The Titan XP is also a cut-down chip so the 1080 Ti might be even better.

Titan XP just isn't an option for me. Runs far too hot and noisily without water.

Vega will do nothing to compete with Nvidia's high end. AMD has fallen too far behind to catch up with the big boys.
 
Mayh3M said:
Don't want to add in a custom loop. Simply cannot be bothered with the hassle for one card. The Titan XP is also a cut-down chip so the 1080 Ti might be even better.

Titan XP just isn't an option for me. Runs far too hot and noisily without water.

Vega will do nothing to compete with Nvidia's high end. AMD has fallen too far behind to catch up with the big boys.
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Vega is a family of cards like Pascal.

If NVidia had launched the GTX 1060 first and people had no knowledge of the 1070, 1080 or Titan, they would be saying Pascal will do nothing to compete with the existing AMD cards.:)
 
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