Where Are All The New 14th Gen Motherboards?
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There are no new motherboards as such for the 14th gen chips.
Unless you're talking about the one ASUS has released but it's still z790.
Unless you're talking about the one ASUS has released but it's still z790.
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Intel took a 13th gen refresh of their CPUs and rebranded it as a new range.
The 14900K should be instead called the 13950K.
Intel has used the same socket this time instead of a new one.
You can use a Z690 or Z790 motherboard with the “14th” gen CPU.
The 14700K is the one cpu to get some more cores on top of the slight frequency boost.
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Other places have these listed but the jump in cost compared to the standard z790 version for wifi 7 and thunderbolt 5 support isn't worth it imo.
Just make sure you buy a board with flashback and you're good. Alternatively, I believe MSI call theirs "MAX", Gigabyte has added an "X" and Asus has a list here.
Yeah all z790 but the newer boards have some really good QOL updates.
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Agreed on wifi 7 but Thunderbolt 7 might be worth it for external GPUs and other connectivity. Onboard wifi is usually too impeded by the chassis to be useful for me.
For the average user though, yes, Thunderbolt 7 is worthless.
I would like to get a laptop with a Thunderbolt 7 connector so that I could add an external GPU if I wanted (think a ultra portable 14" laptop with a core i5 or i7 and paired with an externally powered RX 6700XT and you have a fairly powerful and portable setup).
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ROG Maximus Z790 APEX Encore is looking good for my needs yet the two lone dimm slots have been pushed VERY close to the processor heatsink and may cause an issue !!. More chance of running a PCI5 video card and PCI5 M2 drive simultaneously too (as the ROG Maximus Z790 Hero is unclear in that respect). Wifi7, pcie5 and higher stable ddr5 speeds etc for future proofing...
Yes Overclockers, where is the new batch of ASUS cards ??
I highly doubt you'll get your money back from a future proofing POV. The socket is dead now (as far as we know), so there's no future CPUs that'll use/need higher-end DDR5 and with PCiE5/Wifi7, if you don't need them right now (hardly anyone does, especially gamers), I think you'd be better off banking half the £750 you need to buy one of these boards (i.e. £375) and just using that to buy a 15th gen motherboard when they release.
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It's not about money but making the most of what we have here for now (two pc's) that will hopefully do us for the next 2 years or so. That includes upgrading our 3080ti video cards. Saving money for a next gen motherboard mean a new processor too !!
Sure, but if you're upgrading in 2 years then you'll be buying one anyway? The Apex is a board that overclockers use to reach the top of the rankings and I suspect most of them don't even pay for it.
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I do love everything about the Apex because it’s mental but Tetras is correct, you can’t really justify spending £750 on a motherboard for a socket that is done.
There’s nothing I like more than a great high end piece of hardware but rarely can you justify their cost.
Get any 8 layer motherboard that isn’t aimed at extreme Overclockers.
Buildzoid usually does a Z790 buying guide for all buyers from entry level to XOC users but he’s only really done a few individual motherboard analysis videos like the one below.
mobo PCB Breakdown: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX
text version: https://www.patreon.com/posts/79145965My Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/buildzoidTeespring: https://teespring.com/stores/actually-hardcore-ov...
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I would personally get the MPG Z790I EDGE WIFI because I’m a madman who likes dealing with the pains of ITX systems but I’d also look at the ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E which is an 8 layer PCB full ATX motherboard.
Just saw the price of the Z790 Tachyon. Wild.
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The Z790-e has a very small/poor PCH heatsink. Something the Hero and APEX Encore appear to have sorted.
Hello, do you know how the naming hierarchy of MSI cards works please? I worked out "Max" is the model for the 14th gen refresh, but within that there is Godlike, Ace, Tomahawk etc. Is there any thats regarded as "best" please? OR, if no-one fancies a long answer, a link to somewhere that ranks them? One that can rag the backside off any game now, and still be capable of, at worst, creaking along in 10 years time?
Have read upthread that MSI are well regarded, so likely to get one of them, also read (a few posts prior to this) that its going to be the last mobo for a finished processor line, but as I currently have an I7-2600 you can see i dont update often, so unlikely to be worried about next gen until a decade from now at current rate! Pretty much got my heart set on a 14th gen KF cpu
Have read upthread that MSI are well regarded, so likely to get one of them, also read (a few posts prior to this) that its going to be the last mobo for a finished processor line, but as I currently have an I7-2600 you can see i dont update often, so unlikely to be worried about next gen until a decade from now at current rate! Pretty much got my heart set on a 14th gen KF cpu
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You’ll get far better value for your money Upgrading once every 5 years rather than once every 10.
buying a 14600K now and then buying a new rig when the 19600K comes out would be far better value than spending all of your money on a top of the range CPU now and hoping it lasts.
Also, the name of the board doesn’t really do very much. It’s more about the feature set and price.
I wouldn’t spent a ton of money on a motherboard, I’d get a value model and build around that.
With MSI, “MAX” typically indicates an increased BIOS chip size so that motherboard can handle all CPUs that fit in that socket.
Why don’t you put your question in the new to hardware with your budget and upgrade advice section and see if people can put together a good PC that’ll last a good few years?
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I wouldn't buy an expensive board in the hope it'll last longer, as said above it's more about the features.
- Pro is their lowest-end brand, it is equivalent to giving you the features for a basic desktop PC. Usually the board has -P or -E after the chipset. Though, I'd hardly call a X670 Pro board basic. The boards with -A seem to be a step above.
- Gaming Plus is a gaming brand, it's a bit more expensive than Pro and you usually get plenty of USB ports and sound jacks, with pretty substantial heatsinks.
- Tomahawk is their mainstream gaming board, it has a higher-end spec than the Pro and is built as an all-rounder to compete with mainstream boards from other manufacturers, e.g. good VRMs, decent sound.
- Carbon and Edge have RGB shinies, Edge has white heatsinks and at least for B650, unlike the Tomahawk they have a PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slot.
- Ace is their premium brand, similar to Asus and the Hero brand. It has a premium VRM, loads of USB ports, USB PD/Fast charge, PCI-E 5.0 graphics, 10Gb LAN and audio with integrated DAC and spdif.
- Godlike is the "money no object" brand, it has the highest-end of everything and the feature set is much like the ACE (premium, VRM, loads of USB, 10Gb LAN), but including the latest features like USB 4/Thunderbolt on the rear I/O and an onboard LED panel.
For most users (e.g. gamers), going higher than the Tomahawk is usually unnecessary.
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Agreed with all of this.
Tomahawk is usually my go to for most gamers who need features without spending a fortune.
Anything more than a Tomahawk is just overkill for most people.
I, personally, want a Unify-X for the memory overclocking but even I think spending that sort of money on a motherboard is silly.
I go to Buildzoids channel for motherboard recommendations as he will point out specific boards features that I like (8 layer PCB, 2 DIMM RAM, good VRMs, well priced, non buggy BIOS, isn’t fatally flawed)