Where can I find a graphic designer?

Zbornak

Zbornak

Zbornak

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I'm looking for a young and talented GFX designer to do quite a simple but creative business card design for me (I'm a film-maker). Obviously, I wouldn't pay and a few of the finished cards will be sent over for them to photograph and add to (or start) their portfolio.

Is there some kind of social network the young GFX designers use where I can ask? In the film industry, we have several job board websites where people post jobs, paid and unpaid for other people to take up if they're looking to gain more experience and credits. Do people do unpaid stuff in the graphic design industry?

Alternatively, let me know if you'd like to give it a go or know anyone who would.
 
Zbornak said:
I'm looking for a young and talented GFX designer .... Obviously, I wouldn't pay
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:confused: Do you work for free?

Chances are, if they are a talented designer then a couple of business cards won't be of interest to their portfolio, especially as you're an unknown film maker (otherwise you wouldn't be looking for a freebie)

There are freelancer websites/boards all over the place, google will find them for you.
 
Wooooooow. First of all, yes I've worked tons of jobs for free. When I started out and had no experience working with professionals and only my own projects, I worked for free to build contacts and experience. I still very occasionally do work for free if like the concept or the people involved.

One of the jobs I worked on for free had someone else working on it for tiny money. The production designer from the last three Bond movies. He had spare time between Quantum of Solace and Skyfall so he joined the production I worked on for literally enough money to cover his expenses. John Hurt does short films for expenses only. Do you know how much Ewan McGregor was paid for Scenes of Sexual Nature? £100 a day.

I'm not even looking for the John Hurt of the graphic design industry. I'm looking for someone who is still in college or secondary school and has no experience of working with a client before. In exchange for their skills, they get to say on that they worked for their first client when they were just 15-16.

The responses above have inspired me to look even harder to find someone in order to teach them some things about working in the creative industry. A big part of graphic design is thinking outside the box, anyone who can do that doesn't get sickened by the prospect of free work.

If I like the result, I'll be sure to post it up on the boards here.
 
Zbornak said:
Wooooooow. First of all, yes I've worked tons of jobs for free. When I started out and had no experience working with professionals and only my own projects, I worked for free to build contacts and experience. I still very occasionally do work for free if like the concept or the people involved.

One of the jobs I worked on for free had someone else working on it for tiny money. The production designer from the last three Bond movies. He had spare time between Quantum of Solace and Skyfall so he joined the production I worked on for literally enough money to cover his expenses. John Hurt does short films for expenses only. Do you know how much Ewan McGregor was paid for Scenes of Sexual Nature? £100 a day.

I'm not even looking for the John Hurt of the graphic design industry. I'm looking for someone who is still in college or secondary school and has no experience of working with a client before. In exchange for their skills, they get to say on that they worked for their first client when they were just 15-16.

The responses above have inspired me to look even harder to find someone in order to teach them some things about working in the creative industry. A big part of graphic design is thinking outside the box, anyone who can do that doesn't get sickened by the prospect of free work.

If I like the result, I'll be sure to post it up on the boards here.
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I'm a professional photographer (as well as other design areas) and I've probably been working in "the creative industry" longer than so your lesson will be pointless ;) I've done more free charity work than you can shake a stick at including jobs when I've felt it appropriate.

As mentioned, your opening post was nothing short of obnoxious. If someone asked me to design/photograph something (usually happens with bands) and "obviously it'll be free in exchange for a mention" they'll be simply told that it's a no. If I hear of a worthwhile project I may volunteer my services.

You may get someone to do it for free, but I doubt anyone who is talented will consider some unknowns business cards a challenge. As I said, check the freelance boards that you can find via google and you may find someone, but it really wouldn't hurt to offer a small token on top of portfolio builders. If you were famous, I could understand it. Are you?

I could do it for you for free, but then I'd charge you a licence fee to use it each year ;)
 
simisker said:
You can hardly blame those who replied as such, when you use phrases like "Obviously, I wouldn't pay..."

Why "obviously"?
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Because if I was paying I wouldn't be posting it here and I would go to a graphics design company.

It's the same thing as when someone posts a thread on OcUK about a technical problem with their computer. I don't charge for the advice I give them as I know the reason why they're posting it on here is because they don't want to pay for a computer repair. Or people who post about legal advice for unfair dismissals or parking tickets. They post on here because they're not willing to pay for a solicitor.

I'm sorry if the word "obviously" caused people to get upset, but I though it was pretty "obvious" that I if wanted a professional to do it, I'd go straight to a design company rather than asking for advice on OcUK.
 
Zbornak said:
Because if I was paying I wouldn't be posting it here and I would go to a graphics design company.

It's the same thing as when someone posts a thread on OcUK about a technical problem with their computer. I don't charge for the advice I give them as I know the reason why they're posting it on here is because they don't want to pay for a computer repair. Or people who post about legal advice for unfair dismissals or parking tickets. They post on here because they're not willing to pay for a solicitor.

I'm sorry if the word "obviously" caused people to get upset, but I though it was pretty "obvious" that I if wanted a professional to do it, I'd go straight to a design company rather than asking for advice on OcUK.
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Why does asking on here mean that money shouldn't be involved?

I've seen many threads in here and the photography section where people have politely asked for help, and yes, they've usually gotten it for free, however, I've also seen people ask for help and offer payment for the help (gift cert, steam game, piece of hardware etc). I also know that some photographers have been booked to shoot weddings and that isn't cheap. The important thing to remember, that if it's good enough to be used professionally, then it's good enough to be paid for ;)

Why don't we start from scratch, request this get deleted and then start a new thread politely asking if someone is willing to help you, and maybe consider offering a £10 amazon voucher etc (OCUK really should have some sort of gifting voucher system on the forums). You will get quite a different response than you've received with this one :)
 
I don't understand what's in it for the mug who designs the cards.

Adding a business card to their portfolio? Wowee.

If you have the appropriate branding, having business cards designed is not expensive. If you don't, then it's not a business card design you need.

Anyone capable of doing either job well is unlikely to be getting much in return by adding it to their portfolio.
 
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