Poll: Where is everyone?

Do you think that life exists elsewhere in the universe?

  • Yes there must be!

    Votes: 561 94.6%
  • Nope, we're all alone.

    Votes: 32 5.4%

  • Total voters
    593
I'm of a similar persuasion. But some idealists think that if one can't go faster than light, then one ought to fold space instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive.

A somewhat sci-fi approach.

Yeah, the amount of energy theoretically required to fold space is enormous and I'm not sure any advanced civilisation could come close to achieving it. The only way that I can see of it happening, is if they came across a natural Einstein-Rosen Bridge and used that, but if so, how would you control your destination? So as you rightly say, it's all sci-fi at this point.
 
Don't think of it as a single, tiny drone on its own in the vastness of space calling home -- think networks. Two decades is optimistic though.

I read the other day that these drones would be powered by powerful lasers on Earth that could accelerate them to a significant proportion of the speed of light. Is that what you heard? Sounds interesting and theoretically would only take around 25 years to reach our nearest star.
 
Consciousness is a natural byproduct of highly evolved brains. The mind can not exist without the brain, and the mind is consciousness. Many animals exhibit consciousness, including octopus, dolphins, dogs, chimpanzees etc. If you think about what it would be like to meet intelligent aliens then a good example may be an octopus. We automatically think that aliens would look similar to us but that is probably not the case. One thing they would share with us though is consciousness and that would be large highly evolved brains.
 
Even with no fossil record the theory of evolution is fact and the evidence that this is as a result of natural selection has a robust and increasing body of evidence.

Yes you're quite right. However, without the fossil record there is one other mountain of evidence to confirm evolution that you didn't mention, molecular genetics. Molecular genetics on it's own, without a fossil record, is enough to prove evolution because it shows that every organism is related to every other organism in a beautiful family tree. So we humans share 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees and lesser % with horses and an even lesser % with cabbages. The underlying truth is that molecular genetics shows us that every organism on Earth is related and shares a common ancestor to every other organism.
 
Intelligent life is a sweeping statement. Does a species need to create tons of junk to be intelligent? Humans have been about, what, 50,000* years in a recognisable form. We only have artifacts going back, what, 5,000* years. It's only in the last few hundred years we've "made a mark" so to speak

*from memory, probably wrong

Yeah, slightly off with your numbers. Homo Sapiens have existed in their current form for about 200,000 years according to the fossil record. With regard to artifacts, we have examples of them going back at least 12,000 years for settlements and even further for the use of tools. Search google for Clovis man.

The above is only referenced for Homo Sapiens
 
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