Where the heck do I start

To be honest.... there is little difference in cost between a standard network card and the 300Mbps one. Might as well spend the extra £20 and be futureproof(ish).
If anyone knows... what load can the built-it fan controller take? Will it run all these fans? There is the factory top 200mm, a back 140mm (converted to 120mm for some reason), two 120mm on the front and I want to add two 120mm on the side.
If it can take the load, then it saves me fitting the fan controller (although the temp readouts would be a handy feature).
Is there a practical limit to adding fans? I would imagine noise is one of them.
You must get to a point where you are better off just adding a basic water cooling kit.

Shame a whole pile of this stuff is out of stock - not much point ordering at the moment
 
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scrlk said:
You will be ****** when it comes to 1080p streaming though. 300Mbps is the theoretical maximum, not what will be achieved in real world use.
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Laughing out loud

So my 10 meg internet connection isn't good enough to stream 1080p content :rolleyes:, OK good luck finding a connection in the home that will be good enough then.

My currant connection 10 417 Kbps = 10.1728516 Mbps. Even if the 150 Mbps adapter only reaches half its rated speed that is still equivalent to a 75 meg internet connection, heck Blu ray players only require 54 Mbps to view movies from disc.
 
OK. Can't order it yet... nothing in stock.
Lying in bed last night.... oooh, dual monitors.....
Any suggestions? I would want the graphics card at least as good as the one I have selected. I have a spare monitor here, and for my graphic work, it would be great to have a second display.

Something like this? Being a newbie.... is this the same spec or better than as the Frozr? Its barely any more expensive
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-304-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673

The monitor I have here is a standard one, so I doubt it has any fancy connections on it.

I may... as a tweek, bin the sound card (I have an old Creative Labs card in my old tower) and fan controller and spend the extra on an I7 processor. Must be worth the upgrade?

Come on OC.... get some gear in stock
 
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I would think you should be looking for a nvidia card and not an ati card as has been suggested, although i dont use maya i beleive its got a lot of support for nvidia cuda and physx that will speed up viewport renders and simulations, as i said i dont use it so you'd need to check into that. Certainly plugin support for cuda/physx seems to be good for maya.

not convinced its a compelling reason to choose one over the other tbh it'll depend what your doing just something to keep in mind. A quick google tells me that there is potential issues regarding the driver hobbling of the non proffesional nvidia cards so deffo something that would need researched if your doing something that could benefit form cuda/physx.
 
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bru said:
Laughing out loud

So my 10 meg internet connection isn't good enough to stream 1080p content :rolleyes:, OK good luck finding a connection in the home that will be good enough then.

My currant connection 10 417 Kbps = 10.1728516 Mbps. Even if the 150 Mbps adapter only reaches half its rated speed that is still equivalent to a 75 meg internet connection, heck Blu ray players only require 54 Mbps to view movies from disc.
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>Implying that 54Mbps is what you get in real world situations.
802.11g is the third modulation standard for wireless LANs. It works in the 2.4 GHz band (like 802.11b) but operates at a maximum raw data rate of 54 Mbit/s, or about 19 Mbit/s net throughput
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scrlk said:
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>Implying that 54Mbps is what you get in real world situations.
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Assuming his router is wireless G rated though, right?

If its 'N' standard and his wireless card is, you could get the higher speeds up to 300mb/s right?

Also, Usb wireless adapters are as good, if not more convenient than PCI cards.

Edit: and PCIe would think would be reeaally unnecessary. Unless you've only got PCIe slots. But a USB stick would be a better option.
 
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pandem0nium said:
Assuming his router is wireless G rated though, right?

If its 'N' standard and his wireless card is, you could get the higher speeds up to 300mb/s right?

Also, Usb wireless adapters are as good, if not more convenient than PCI cards.

Edit: and PCIe would think would be reeaally unnecessary. Unless you've only got PCIe slots. But a USB stick would be a better option.
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IIRC 600Mbps is the maximum for the 802.11n standard (depending on the number of antennas used). What I have encountered on G networks is that 1080p streaming isn't a pleasant experience (e.g. shuttering when seeking) and that upgrading would have its benefits, dependant on router/cards.
 
I will get a PCIe card, purely for the cosmetic reason that I don't want a separate USB stick/dock plugged into the tower. I want it all compact.
My wireless here is only in the next room, so range isn't an issue.

Oh, and what is the better output... DVI or HDMI?
 
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Stevolution said:
well it not just for Minecraft! I am doing quite a lot of film editing and learning some professional graphics software, so I don't want to skimp.
What is hyperthreading? So that 'Titan Triceratop gaming system deal' isn't much good then with an i5 processor.
I can build my own pc - done that many times. I build electronic stuff as a hobby.
Just no idea how to overclock
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You may want an i7 in that case.
 
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There's room to cut down on a few things there.

I have no idea about network cards :)
 
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scrlk said:
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>Implying that 54Mbps is what you get in real world situations.
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OK so you would have seemed to of misunderstood my post, when i mentioned that blu ray players need 54Mbps to view a disc, that is the bandwidth requirement for standalone Blu ray players according to...

http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/ see section 1.7

Anyway my point was that if the opening poster is only connecting to his router then the internet then there is no need for a 300Mbps wireless card, whereas if he is going to connect to a network and transfer files around said network then the higher speed might be useful.
 
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