Where to move to? Australia? ….?

I have mixed feelings about London. I love its breathtaking monuments, its palpable sense of history, its awe-inspiring gravitas, its friendly people, and the good old Tube.

But I could not tolerate the ludicrous expense, the lack of space, the aggressive beggars, the incredible population density, the noise, and the sheer filthiness of the place.
 
Evangelion said:
It certainly was in 1993 - particularly as a birthday present. Even today, $5,000 = £2,272. That's a tidy sum, even though it won't go as far as it did 15 years ago.

Of course, if you were accustomed to receiving this sort of cash regularly from your own parents when you were a kid, it may not seem like a large amount. Was this the case?

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No, not in the least bit. I'd think of it as a sizeable sum, but I didn't know how long ago it was, nor what it equated to in real money, thats all :)

I don't know how obscenely rich families work really. There were a couple of lads at college who only ever dressed in top yachtsman wear. Before anyone had heard of it they were head to toe in Helly Hansen, Paul and Shark, etc. They used to just ask for cash and get those kinds of amounts.

Yes, I was jealous!
 
Gilly said:
No, not in the least bit. I'd think of it as a sizeable sum, but I didn't know how long ago it was, nor what it equated to in real money, thats all :)

I don't know how obscenely rich families work really. There were a couple of lads at college who only ever dressed in top yachtsman wear. Before anyone had heard of it they were head to toe in Helly Hansen, Paul and Shark, etc. They used to just ask for cash and get those kinds of amounts.

Yes, I was jealous!
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I've met people like this before. It's a surreal experience; they seem to be living in a completely different universe to the one I inhabit. :confused:

I knew a family back home who lived in Dalkeith (one of Perth's most expensive and exclusive suburbs, where the average price of a house is $2.6 million). Their father was the president of a mining company, with all the perks you'd expect: company car, company boat, outlandish salary/superannuation package, share options, you name it. He once told his wife he was taking her "out to lunch at a nice restaurant on Saturday".

The restaurant turned out to be in London... they flew out on Friday, stayed for the weekend and flew back on Sunday night. Madness, sheer madness I tell you! :eek:
 
Ross1234 said:
Scotland If you are not chav's or stuck up
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Well, if we're ignoring the language barrier, I'd head for Japan :D

Best Food, Best Cars, Best TV (yes, I like some anime:p)

OK, u got me on the music... But just watch more TV, sumo etc.

All the latest tech first, including day-to-day tech, like subways, and stuff, it's like Minority report :rolleyes: And cheap too....

Yes, it's a little crowded, but there's plenty of room outside the cities, just a case of commuting into them every day.
 
Evangelion said:
Speaking as an Aussie, I can tell you that it's much easier to emigrate Down Under if you're a skilled worker. Consequently, you guys should be fine - particularly since your gf's skills are in demand (Australia is currently suffering from a shortage of doctors).

Details of the process for skilled migrants can be found here. For information specifically relating to doctors and nurses, click here. For a useful overview of life in Australia (including details of the capital cities) click here. For anything else, just ask me.

Now a few words of advice...

Australia is not for everyone. If you have no compelling reason to go... don't.

Write a list of the things you really want out of life. If you already have them in the UK (or you're already on the way to getting them) then why look elsewhere? Australia won't necessarily change your life for the better; it's not a magic wheel that spins straw into gold.

Like most places, Australia is a land of swings and roundabouts. You have to trade them off against each other. Some things are cheaper - a lot cheaper - than the UK. Other things are more expensive - a lot more expensive - than the UK. Find out what they are, and compare them. Try to estimate their impact on your family budget. If you have the opportunity to visit Australia on holiday, take it. Holiday life is not the same as "real" everyday life, but it will give you an invaluable insight into the country and its people. I recommend 1-2 months; make sure you visit more than one state.

Consider your relationships with family and friends. Are you so close that you can't live without each other? Are you fairly independent? Could you cope effectively without your usual support network for months on end? Do you make friends easily, or are you happy to have "quality over quantity"?

Do you enjoy regular overseas holidays on the continent? Bear in mind that these will be almost unaffordable when you're flying from the southern hemisphere. Driving to Paris is great fun, but the Chunnel doesn't quite reach Australia. If you're the sort of person who would miss the benefits of proximity to Europe, think carefully before making a decision.

Above all, don't move to Australia "just to see what it's like". If that's your primary motivation, take a holiday instead - and make it a long one. :)
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Superb post.

I came over on a working holiday Visa almost 2 years ago.
Travelled around a fair bit for 8 months , picked where I wanted to live then sorted out a job and a more permanent visa.

Best thing I ever did.
 
If you haven't already been, I strongly suggest you visit these counties before you even begin to make up your mind.
 
NZ> all :P but I would say that as I come from there hehe, but from what I understand they have a good policy in place for docters. I know three of my friends went out there for a 2-3 year stint all got work.
 
I did fancy Canada but recently found out that employers expect you not to have a single day off(except weekends) of your first year in employment, and even after your first year you only get 10 days annual leave!
 
dbmzk1 said:
If you haven't already been, I strongly suggest you visit these counties before you even begin to make up your mind.
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Indeed, it was a big eye opener actually living in Australia for a few weeks at someones house to get a feel for day to day life.

There just isn't enough History in OZ for me, I need green fields and hills with castles on top.
 
New Zealand has a massive shortage in IT workers. they basically throw visas at you if your IT qualified. (dunno if you are it qualified but since your on this forums there's good chance you are)
 
Paras said:
Lol yah I know but we have to start applying for job soon and will go out and have a look soon.

Im very keen on Canada however the biggest problem is getting a job is going to be quite difficult, im convinced if I take her out to have a look in the summer she will love it there.


Thanks for the tip re new zealand, we will do some reading on it.
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Canada is awesome. Tell her that if she likes snowboarding or mountain biking, they got some of the best places in the world (whistler).
 
I am a migration agent for Canada & Australia.

from the brief info i read in this post i take it you are both young british doctors.

Canada:

You will most likely be fine for the Federal skilled Worker visa which gives you permanent residency in Canada as you will score highly in the education, english and age points bands. You will however need atleast 1 year full time paid work experience.

I am planning to migrate to Canada once ive made enough to purchase a house outright there. Ideally settling on Vancouver Island/Vancouver as its the most mild climate being as warm, if not warmer in the summer as here and cold but not TOO cold in winter.. good snow boarding weather!

Australia:

I dont actually deal with Doctors as there isnt much we can do as you need to go to Australia to register in the state you want to migrate to and pass all there tests etc.

Australia has a good labour market for Doctors (then again, which country doesnt).

Australia has awesome weather, beaches and its laid back lifestyle. If you havent worked in Australia before i would always recomend going on a working holiday visa or 457 work permit first to get a taster.
 
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