Where to sell JDM import

ChrisD. said:
I'm not entirely sure it's just because of the microchip shortage. I think a lot of it is down to the massive drive for electric cars and any new remotely exciting petrol car is a vast sum of money (£80k for an M3) and then there's the VED to consider.
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For this to be true though the price inflation would have to apply only to specialist high performance cars - but it doesn't. Even ordinary stuff is up in value by large percentage amounts.

Also, who is really paying £80k for an M3? Comedy list prices accompanied by double digit percentage discounts have become the norm now - much to the annoyance of people buying cars with a list price of about £45k...
 
mikehhhhhhh said:
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I'm not sure, the FD2 is absolutely hilarious and keeps cars with well over 100 bhp more quite honest. I will definitely miss it and 8000+ rpm NA lunacy. There's also no way I will be able to chuck a £40k+ car with nearly 450 bhp around with as little care as I do a 1200 kg Honda that's my second car.
 
ChrisD. said:
I'm not sure, the FD2 is absolutely hilarious and keeps cars with well over 100 bhp more quite honest. I will definitely miss it and 8000+ rpm NA lunacy. There's also no way I will be able to chuck a £40k+ car with nearly 450 bhp around with as little care as I do a 1200 kg Honda that's my second car.
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I'm a huge FD2 fan, but honestly the F80 is just awesome on track.

What you lose in drama from the K20a screaming it's nuts off, you'll more than make up for in drama from the torque and the S55 still loves to rev.

You can't fully hide the weight, sure, but the chassis is so capable and easy to drive fast that you'll soon forget about it. Get some decent tyres, pads, some camber adjustable top mounts and a decent geo and I'll be astonished if you even give your FD2 a second thought :D
 
We shall see. I am however looking forward to arriving at Spa in relative comfort rather than an engine revving at 4k rpm on the motorway and a sound system that might as well be an iPad playing in the glove compartment!
 
ChrisD. said:
We shall see. I am however looking forward to arriving at Spa in relative comfort rather than an engine revving at 4k rpm on the motorway and a sound system that might as well be an iPad playing in the glove compartment!
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Yes, it'll be luxury in comparison.

Just don't forget they need camber to work well. I found -3 degrees front and the rears maxed out around -2 degrees was golden. Combine that with 0 toe on the front and you'll keep it friendly for the road!
 
mikehhhhhhh said:
Just don't forget they need camber to work well. I found -3 degrees front and the rears maxed out around -2 degrees was golden. Combine that with 0 toe on the front and you'll keep it friendly for the road!
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Thanks for the heads up. I won't be modifying the car so if I can get that much camber using the standard suspension then I'll look into it.
 
ChrisD. said:
Thanks for the heads up. I won't be modifying the car so if I can get that much camber using the standard suspension then I'll look into it.
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There's no adjustment on the front, they are stuck at -1.5. You'll need camber adjustable top mounts for that. Rear is adjustable to around -2 stock. I'd recommend Milway road top mounts - they are rubber bushed and not significanly noisier than stock.

If you're pushing the car, you'll quickly destroy the shoulders of most tyres without camber - especially at a high load circuit like Spa. You might get away with a very stiff sidewalled tyre like an AD08 or a proper semi-slick and going easy on the front axle.

As well as being kinder to your tyres, it'll pay you back by being obscenely fast for an otherwise stock car, though. It'll probably do <2:50 laps around Spa on the right tyres.

I guess it depends what you're after, though. If you're happy just doing a few laps at 80% then it's still an incredibly capable car stock, but that geo is really needed to get the best from it.
 
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Thanks for the advise. My FD2 was doing sub 3 minute laps and I drove it really, really hard. I doubt I'll be driving the F80 that hard, until I get used to high power RWD on a circuit.
 
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Maybe it was 3.10 then - it's been a while! FK2 has a load more aero and power so probably 3.10 rather than sub 3. I'll have to check out my recordings.
 
ChrisD. said:
Maybe it was 3.10 then - it's been a while! FK2 has a load more aero and power so probably 3.10 rather than sub 3. I'll have to check out my recordings.
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It's definitely achievable on the right tyres to be fair.

I've taken a DC5 track car around Spa in around 3 minutes flat with vtec cutting out intermittently. That would have been on vastly superior tyres than the road tyres that were presumably used on the FK2, though.
 
Just checked, looks like I did 3.02.23, 3.02.24 and then 3.02.61 over 3 consecutive laps at the end of the day when it's clear. Not sure what state the car was at the time in terms of modifications. Would have been on AD08R tyres. The next lap was 3.03.21 and then it looks like I took a cool down lap before coming in.
 
[TW]Fox said:
For this to be true though the price inflation would have to apply only to specialist high performance cars - but it doesn't. Even ordinary stuff is up in value by large percentage amounts.

Also, who is really paying £80k for an M3? Comedy list prices accompanied by double digit percentage discounts have become the norm now - much to the annoyance of people buying cars with a list price of about £45k...
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Everyone it seems.

Every BMW dealer I've engaged has offered around £2k discount on the £75k base list price.
 
ChrisD. said:
Cheers, just edited as I misread Harry's. Forgot I had that app. :D
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Judging from what I've read online over past two days mate, I would wait another month, seems reports on new car shortages are worse than feared and as such could see another uplift in the used market, or advertise it now at a price slightly overs and see if you get anyone sniffing around it.

Whatever you do don't give a car away, great for the buyer but if you can make a few quid more, do so as it gets you an even nicer F80. :)
 
Gibbo said:
Judging from what I've read online over past two days mate, I would wait another month, seems reports on new car shortages are worse than feared and as such could see another uplift in the used market, or advertise it now at a price slightly overs and see if you get anyone sniffing around it.

Whatever you do don't give a car away, great for the buyer but if you can make a few quid more, do so as it gets you an even nicer F80. :)
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Won't the F80 just move further away with an equal % move in the market?
 
mikehhhhhhh said:
Won't the F80 just move further away with an equal % move in the market?
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Potentially yes, as pre particulate filter stuff has gone up in demand, but saying that I think JDM stuff in particular is on a far steeper appreciation curve than most other stuff apart from Porsche.
 
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